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Show HN: CodePair - etherpad + codechecker + analytics for interviews

82 pointsby rvivekover 11 years ago

21 comments

mseebachover 11 years ago
For the nay-sayers out there: You have <i>clearly</i> not been anywhere near the hiring funnel of a tech company. The sheer number of people with impressive academic credentials, even with industry experience, that can&#x27;t code a for-loop and reason about it is <i>staggering</i>. Anything that facilitates actual, hands-on coding early in the process and on an actual computer (as opposed to whiteboards or paper) is a very welcome addition.
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ddoolinover 11 years ago
I&#x27;ve had coding interviews via phone&#x2F;Skype + browser since I started applying a couple of years ago. I&#x27;m not sure why anyone would be depressed.<p>It seems like a lot of posters here just don&#x27;t like being interviewed on any terms except their own. It&#x27;s a very snooty position to take, but I suppose there&#x27;s enough room for those types of people as well.<p>I prefer this over some companies who (seriously) have a great phone-only interview with me, only to reject me after looking at my GitHub. I also don&#x27;t blame them for not dropping a lot of money to fly me out to meet them when they wouldn&#x27;t even know if I&#x27;m qualified or not. This is a pretty good medium, I think. This is only second to my preference for being given a project and a few days to do it, but I wouldn&#x27;t fault a company for whatever method they chose, unless it was downright asinine.
k3nover 11 years ago
This is really cool! A few things though:<p>* You probably have your reasons, but requiring an email to simply test it out is too much IMO. I don&#x27;t want to go through the email invitation dance, I don&#x27;t want spam in the future, and I don&#x27;t want to wait; so, I practically always refuse.<p>* In general, the ratio of marketing info to specifics is too high; in other words, more details would be nice, such as: I see it supports 16 languages; ok, great! So, what are they...? (mind you, I wouldn&#x27;t be asking if there was a public demo)
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ghshephardover 11 years ago
One anectdote, for whateever it&#x27;s worth - Our company adopted online code testing, in which the screening interviewer (as opposed to the entire interview team) tossed out sample coding questions, and had the candidate write code real-time with feedback from the interviewer - it COMPLETELY revolutionized the quality of candidates that started coming in for in-person interviews, and increased the percentage of candidates interviewed in person being hired from around 20-30% up to 70-80%.<p>The single greatest advantage of &quot;pre-testing&quot; candidates is that the amount of time engineers had to spend interviewing candidates was reduced dramatically. A secondary advantage for the candidates, is that they didn&#x27;t have to waste their time coming in for interviews for jobs that they were really not qualified for - win all around.<p>I don&#x27;t understand how anyone can&#x27;t see that it would be useful to determine whether a developer can code prior to coming into an interview.<p>All of the top engineering managers (by that, I mean the ones who are really effective at hiring and retaining great engineers) have always told me, that part of the interview for a developer who is expected to code, is that they should demonstrate their ability to code, during the interview.<p>I&#x27;m not sure why being asked to demonstrated this ability online is considered an issue.
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rvivekover 11 years ago
We have modified it so that you don&#x27;t need to signup or provide your e-mail: <a href="https://www.interviewstreet.com/recruit2/codepair" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.interviewstreet.com&#x2F;recruit2&#x2F;codepair</a><p>Check it out! Thanks for the feedback
gxespinoover 11 years ago
Naysayers: This product is not for you. It is for the interviewer&#x27;s benefit. You are not the one paying for it so your &quot;depression&quot; due to tools such as this is almost a non issue.<p>If you don&#x27;t want to do a technical interview such as codepair, then don&#x27;t. I&#x27;m sure there will be other candidates who wouldn&#x27;t mind.<p>Now the question as to whether or not this is effective in gauging the actual resourcefulness of a potential employee - that is a little less certain. I&#x27;m sure their are other factors beside one&#x27;s ability to answer coding problems that play into the overall ability of a potential employee.
bretthopperover 11 years ago
I guess I should be impressed with this product but it&#x27;s actually just depressing.<p>Obviously this is just a tool and it&#x27;s up to the companies how to use it, but I think we all know how that will work out.
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Aveover 11 years ago
Shameless plug for my sideproject I&#x27;m currently working on, <a href="http://hiresync.io" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hiresync.io</a> which is aiming to do much of the same thing.
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taudeover 11 years ago
I&#x27;m not sure how I&#x27;d feel about doing some coding before I even went through other parts of the interview process or meeting the team I&#x27;d be working with. This sends me the message that I&#x27;m going to be a COG in some system.<p>Sending a potential candidate something like this might be a turn-off to a lot of candidates (especially in this marketplace).
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vadepaysaover 11 years ago
This is awesome. I always ask people to code in phone interviews and I use Googe Docs.<p>You will be surprised at the number of people who have good resumes but cannot code at all. Watching someone code even a simple Fizz Buzz problem will help you understand the person&#x27;s programming abilities better.
Lambent_Cactusover 11 years ago
At my last gig we used Stypi or Google Docs plus a phone to do live code exercises, and CodePair likes like a step up from that.<p>But what we&#x27;re running at my current gig is sending a trivial problem ahead (after an initial phone screen) and then asking for extensions over a Google Hangout with the candidate doing a screen share. This lets people work their way in their own environment with the language of their choice, and do any boilerplate or other overhead up front.<p>It&#x27;s not perfect - I&#x27;d prefer not to require someone use or make a Google+ account, but it&#x27;s the best I&#x27;ve seen so far.
btuckerover 11 years ago
I can&#x27;t help but feel nervous every time the mouse moves to the top right of the screen, narrowly missing the &quot;End Interview&quot; button in the animation...<p>I&#x27;m sure there&#x27;s the a confirmation dialog or something, but I&#x27;d be afraid of accidentally hanging up on the person the whole time.
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akanetover 11 years ago
For anyone looking for a similar take with a larger focus on real-time REPL experimentation during the coding interview, check out: <a href="https://coderpad.io/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;coderpad.io&#x2F;</a>
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oakazover 11 years ago
I hate code interviews and hope that they won&#x27;t exist in the future.
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coldcodeover 11 years ago
Why isn&#x27;t there more information like a list of languages&#x2F;compilers etc? The site needs to say more than &quot;contact us&quot; or try an interview to figure out what you can do with it.
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iamleppertover 11 years ago
Impressive. But this product also makes me depressed. It dehumanizes the interview process. My question is why don&#x27;t you just have a challenge server, like facebook?
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ernestiparkover 11 years ago
This is pretty cool but part of the interface is confusing me. What do I put into the input field? Or is it just using the input defined in the question?
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kirang1989over 11 years ago
This is pretty cool for phone interviews, but I certainly do hope that people refrain from using this as their only method of interviewing candidates.
Johnyma22over 11 years ago
Hey I&#x27;m the guy behind the Etherpad Foundation, wanted to just say thanks for the Etherlove :)
rvivekover 11 years ago
Fixed the CSS issues. Can you check?
rvivekover 11 years ago
Some CSS issue. Fixing it.