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What does "HREF" stand for? (2008)

219 pointsby sebkomianosover 11 years ago

15 comments

DanBCover 11 years ago
So, I go to Google Groups to try to find the first mention of HREF on Usenet.<p>I have no idea how to do this. It takes four clicks just to get to the Google Groups page.<p>I see a search box. I look for something to give me the advanced search page. I can&#x27;t find it. (I can see 2 buttons for settings.) So, I type HREF into the search bar and click seach. The drop down offers &quot;in any group&quot; or &quot;groups named&quot;. First attempt I ignore both of those and just click the button.<p>Posts: 28200040, groups: 58<p>I need to narrow this down. I need the advanced search pane. It&#x27;s still not there.<p>I arrange by date. LOL NO, that hasn&#x27;t worked for literally years.<p>The advance options turn up if I&#x27;m in a group. They allow me to narrow the search down, but not to change the group I&#x27;m searching in.<p>I will donate $5 to the charity of your choice to the first person who tells me how the fuck I can perform the following search:<p>[HREF]<p>any Usenet group (or the news hierarchy)<p>Before 1998<p>Sorted by date<p>Bonus $5 if the instructions you give are in any Google documentation online.
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pitover 11 years ago
&quot;Hypertext reference,&quot; I said to myself as I clicked the link. What do I win?
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jmdukeover 11 years ago
I&#x27;m surprised to see that this submission is from 2008; while I identify with the author&#x27;s struggle (and subsequent delight) as he plays the part of an Internet archaeologist, I thought this was a common piece of knowledge five years ago, let alone today. Goes to show how incorrect assumptions about what we do (and do not) know can be.<p>Burners-Lee&#x27;s talks are wonderful. My favorite is his talk &quot;Hypertext and Our Collective Destiny&quot;: <a href="http://www.w3.org/Talks/9510_Bush/Talk.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.w3.org&#x2F;Talks&#x2F;9510_Bush&#x2F;Talk.html</a>
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jameshartover 11 years ago
Let&#x27;s see - the HREF attribute that implements the basic principle of hypertext referencing in the Hypertext Markup Language which TBL invented as a file format to serve over his Hypertext Transfer Protocol... what could it possibly mean? I can see the confusion.
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Sami_Lehtinenover 11 years ago
I just wonder how many people think that web is so wonderful invention. But they completely forget Gopher. There isn&#x27;t so much difference between web and gopher after all. It&#x27;s just a bit different linking method. After all, it&#x27;s rare that invetions are relly great, most of those are just small gradual change over time. Still remember how much hype there was about hypertext back in old days. See: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_%28protocol%29" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Gopher_%28protocol%29</a>
billforsternzover 11 years ago
In the software world we often seem to end up with abbreviations which are ubiquitous but no longer strongly linked to their unabbreviated form. I often find this annoying and distracting. I try an avoid being the source of such annoyance for others. For example if I find myself using abbreviations in my source code, maybe as a prefix for example, I will always ensure the abbreviation is explained at least once in a place that won&#x27;t be lost (in a header file for example).<p>An example from back in the day was the acronym (presumably) &quot;Afx&quot;. Vast numbers of identifiers in the old MFC (Microsoft Foundation Classes) Windows API C++ wrapper used this prefix. For some reason not knowing what it meant caused me chronic stress.
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doorhammerover 11 years ago
I like this kind of article because what seems obvious isn&#x27;t always correct. It could have just as easily meant... anything... and seeing the process and resources different people use to dig into things is always pretty neat.
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Pxtlover 11 years ago
I&#x27;m surprised they didn&#x27;t fix this sillyness in HTML5 when they were making up semantically-sensible tags for everything else.<p>A tag with<p><pre><code> &lt;link to=&quot;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;somepage&quot; in=&quot;new window&quot;&gt; </code></pre> or something like that would make more sense as having the &quot;article&quot; inside the &quot;body&quot; of the document. Yes, I know link is already used in the head. You know what I mean, though.<p>I mean, the dual-use of a as both anchor and link has always been bizarre.
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ghenneover 11 years ago
The term Hypertext was coined by Ted Nelson, probably 1965. Check out his book Computer Lib&#x2F;Dream Machines. He envisioneers the internet quite well.
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m3androsover 11 years ago
According to Wikipedia the &quot;href&quot; attribute stands for: &quot;Hypertext REFerence&quot; (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperlink" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Hyperlink</a>)
sleepyKover 11 years ago
Even my high school computer science text book taught me HREF= Hypertext REFerence...<p>Though I didn&#x27;t know the A stands for Anchor, so there&#x27;s that.
based2over 11 years ago
Open proposals - No patents attached:<p>href =&gt; @,to,dest,target (others: <a href="http://json-ld.org/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;json-ld.org&#x2F;</a>)<p>-------------<p>&#x2F;etc =&gt; &#x2F;config<p>&#x2F;etc&#x2F;rc.d =&gt; &#x2F;config&#x2F;start.d<p>[beyond POSIX]
dsegoover 11 years ago
I don&#x27;t get it. Is this a joke?
sai1511over 11 years ago
href stands for HiddenReflex
nfailorover 11 years ago
yeah upvotes must just be for humiliation&#x27;s sake.