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One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

240 pointsby co_pl_teover 11 years ago

15 comments

marvinover 11 years ago
A somewhat related note is that America&#x27;s culture of sex-negativity, shame and general hysteria around nudity is a required prerequisite for this type of bullying and abuse. Look at the following paragraph:<p>&gt; Jill became hysterical, repeating, &quot;Oh, my God. No. Oh, my God. No.&quot;<p>This is, obviously, the reaction of someone who fears repercussions from others. And this is for completely harmless acts (taking nude photos), which almost everyone does these days. And with good reason. Society in the US clamps down hard on people (women to a greater degree, but also men) who have the audacity to express their sexuality. That this expression was in no way intended for the public, makes no difference. Once it becomes publicly known, you are a slut (or a pervert) and harshly punished. Perverts are no good, and sluts are worse. This cultural norm is the only reason this type of shaming has any effect.<p>But really, we are all sluts and perverts. A good first step would be to go after the psychopaths who run campaigns like these. A good second step would be to abolish the cultural norms that allow sexuality and nudity to be used as a weapon.<p>If you look at &quot;alternative&quot; sexual societies like swingers&#x27; clubs or BDSM communities, you will often hear the word &quot;pervert&quot; or &quot;slut&quot; used in a positive sense, the way homosexuals are reclaiming literally every derogatory term used about their sexual identity. Most people in these communities are very aware and careful regarding the reactions of outside society if it became known what they do in their bedrooms, but the capability to make them feel bad about themselves for acts of nudity or sex is often completely absent.
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jrockwayover 11 years ago
The story kind of jumps around and I read it in parts, but I&#x27;m confused about the outcome. He basically went into hiding and suffered no consequences?<p>What worries me more deeply is how society provides people like Moore with the ammunition they need to terrorize women. One victim complained that she would lose her children over the nude pictures. Even if they <i>were</i> actually of her, why does someone have to fear the government taking away their kids simply because they chose to appear naked in front of a camera? That doesn&#x27;t make someone a bad parent. It doesn&#x27;t really make them anything.<p>Why do we make people fear the govenrment AND their exes AND crazy people on the Internet? As society, we&#x27;re doing a piss-poor job providing protection to people that need it.
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gngealover 11 years ago
&quot;My computer had been bombarded with viruses, and a technician had advised me to buy all new equipment because the malware was tough to remove.&quot;<p>I assume the technician was coincidentally also a salesman. ;-) &quot;Tough to remove&quot;? What a load of crap.
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bowlofpetuniasover 11 years ago
Just a thought: if every American here railing against the ridiculously prudish American culture could pretty please keep in mind that if they offer a service that for instance bans people from posting pictures or distributing apps because &quot;boobies&quot;, <i>you</i> are part of the problem.<p>This is often so easily dismissed on HN as &quot;my product, my rules&quot;, when it is actually a political statement of support for, or at least surrender to, the notion that nudity is something wrong and shameful, especially for women.<p>You wanna solve the problem, start by cleaning up your own act, and take the anti-&quot;porn&quot; provisions out of your TOS, and stop crucifying your users for posting ordinary holiday snapshots because, &quot;boobies&quot;.
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Nursieover 11 years ago
At some point can&#x27;t she say &quot;so there&#x27;s a picture of my left tit on the net, and?&quot;<p>Also I don&#x27;t understand why people like Moore haven&#x27;t been sued into the ground for profiting from copyright violation.<p>(edit: I mean other than the whole upfront cost aspect, but given how frickin&#x27; insane copyright penalties are, you would think some or other lawyer would take it on a no-win no-fee basis.)
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yummyfajitasover 11 years ago
The case against Hunter Moore makes me uncomfortable.<p>Consider a very similar hypothetical site, is-anyone-up-for-busting-corruption.com. Much like isanyoneup.com, this site also posts media of people engaging in actions they do not wish to be seen engaged in. When media is posted, it is accompanied by contact information for the employers of the people involved, and the desire is expressed for those people to be fired and their lives ruined.<p>I can&#x27;t say I like the precedent the attacks on Hunter Moore are setting, even if he is a great big jerk.
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Glyptodonover 11 years ago
I have one weird reservation - her daughter is&#x2F;was 24, but doesn&#x27;t seem to have been involved a whole lot? Or maybe it&#x27;s just written that way on purpose?<p>Maybe it&#x27;s just me, but leaving someone to mope seems a little like you&#x27;re treating them as more a child than an adult.
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SilasXover 11 years ago
&gt;People claimed to be afraid of him. He had no fear oflawsuits; he knew a victim would be unlikely to sue because a civil suit would cost $60,000 (according to attorney Marc Randazza)<p>Why do we allow that kind if situation to persist? What can be done about it?
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chris_wotover 11 years ago
I am surprised that someone didn&#x27;t injure the man, or worse.
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spindritfover 11 years ago
How was Gary Jones hacking those e-mail accounts?<p>How was Black Lotus blocking assets (pages, images) on Moore&#x27;s website? And why was a security company he hired(?) working against him?
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belornover 11 years ago
&gt; Fear entered my life. I received verbal attacks on Twitter, computer viruses and death threats. ... This prompted me to make Moore&#x27;s home address public on Twitter.<p>And people wonder why death threats on the internet is not taken serious by the police. If the victims of death threat do not care, then the police won&#x27;t. The result is that death threats then become normal on online forums, and real death threats gets ignored.
pycassaover 11 years ago
sorry for being off topic, but twitters pic flagging algorithms are crap in my experience.<p>I searched for huntermoore in twitter and I came across a nsfw picture of a man trying to cut his testicles. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=huntermoore&amp;src=typd" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;search?q=huntermoore&amp;src=typd</a><p>twitter&#x27;s safe picture algorithm is a fail in my experience, it fails to tag these gross gore and nsfw pictures but it tags all the pictures uploaded by fernando alonso formula 1 racer as nsfw by default, I never understood that.<p><a href="https://twitter.com/alo_oficial" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;alo_oficial</a> click on any twitpicture and you will get a warning. make sure you have your profile set to not view tagged pictures by default, &quot;tweet media settings&quot;<p>I always found this annoying being a fernando alonso fan.
gnu8over 11 years ago
<i>I emailed the site owner, Hunter Moore, and asked him to take down the photo in accordance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. He refused.</i><p>Would it be to much trouble for these people to learn how to use the DMCA properly? Obviously he is not going to turn his own web site off.
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n1ghtmare_over 11 years ago
Well it looks like he got owned, I couldn&#x27;t help but smile at the end :)
michaelochurchover 11 years ago
What&#x27;s really sick is the personality cult around this creep, even after the end of IAU. I had originally assumed that the &quot;I love Hunter&quot; posts that appear on the Internet on the topic were him-- he&#x27;s a troll; trolls do that-- but apparently he has real-life fans.<p>It&#x27;s basically the Shawn Parker story. No real accomplishments, but active participation in the party scene leads to high status. If this current incarnation of the VC-funded bubble hasn&#x27;t crashed, in 3 years he&#x27;ll be part of the &quot;tech&quot; in-crowd and people here will be discussing his new venture capital fund.<p>I, for one, will never take investment from any VC firm that employs Hunter Moore as a Managing Partner.
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