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Ask HN: Do you cold-contact peers when considering working at a company?

21 pointsby mandytolliverover 11 years ago
I&#x27;m thinking about my next software development job. I think I might find a developer in a similar job in a company, cold-email them, and ask a few questions about what it&#x27;s really like to work there. (I&#x27;ll include a link to my personal site so that they understand I&#x27;m worth responding to.)<p>I&#x27;ll be more comfortable talking to them rather applying for a job directly which makes me seem needy.<p>They&#x27;ll probably be more honest and open than a hiring manager. And if it goes well, they may pass on my resume.<p>I&#x27;m surprised that I haven&#x27;t heard this done more often. Have you tried this? Does it work for you? Or does it seem rude?

17 comments

SandB0xover 11 years ago
When I was a minion at a medium sized software company, if you had emailed me at my work address I would have either not replied or would have done so very cautiously.<p>If we had met through friends or at a meetup, I&#x27;d have been happy to talk to you much more openly about my job and the workplace.<p>The best developers I know have contacts all over town. They occasionally go along to meetups and user-groups on things they are interested in - not in a cynical way, they just enjoy chatting to like-minded folk and learning.<p>I would suggest you start doing the same, with the warnings about appearing desperate as mentioned in jonnathanson&#x27;s comment. You don&#x27;t have to sacrifice your personal&#x2F;family life, just go along to a meetup on some technology&#x2F;language&#x2F;topic of interest once or twice a month, be friendly and personable, swap details with any like-minded people and stay in touch with them on occasion.
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auctiontheoryover 11 years ago
You can do this, but you&#x27;d be <i>much</i> better off finding a common connection, perhaps through LinkedIn. No company is perfect, but someone who knows you only through a cold email would be a fool to trust you with criticism of his employer.<p>I&#x27;m not sure why you think that your personal site proves that you&#x27;re &quot;worth responding to.&quot; The problem with your post is that it&#x27;s all about you - you&#x27;re not thinking of what&#x27;s in it for the recipient of your email, or what risks it poses for them.
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impendiaover 11 years ago
I did this, with great success, when I was applying to math graduate schools.<p>I was in an unusual situation -- had been out of school for five years, and so did not have any useful contacts. So I browsed the personal home pages of graduate students at programs I was interested in, e-mailed several of them out of the blue, and asked them about what they liked about their programs.<p>For the most part, they were wonderfully supportive. I got several very substantive and encouraging replies, and learned some useful information about programs I was interested in. I&#x27;m very glad I did it.<p>The situation was somewhat different from OP&#x27;s --- I didn&#x27;t want anything from them (and indeed there was nothing they could have done for me) other than to reply to my messages. In particular, I didn&#x27;t entertain the thought of sending them a resume to pass on (it wouldn&#x27;t have helped).<p>So different situation, but for me it worked.
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myth_drannonover 11 years ago
I will not reply to you or if I do my response will be neutral. An employee can get in trouble if he is critical of his current employer.
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dmouratiover 11 years ago
When I applied, I used Glassdoor&#x2F;Facebook&#x2F;LinkedIn to search through my current social&#x2F;professional network and to find people one layer removed from me who worked at my now current company. I then asked my contacts how well they knew the employees at my current company. One was able to put me in touch via email. I contacted the employee via email, said I need 15 minutes to chat with him and that it needed to be fast because I was going in for an interview that afternoon. He never got back to me but wound up being one of my interviewers. Obviously, I got the job.<p>Short version, showing interest helps. Showing you are connected helps.
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amaranthaover 11 years ago
We developers keep hearing that we need to do &quot;networking.&quot; In general, I don&#x27;t even know what that means -- but here is an excellent example of what you <i>should</i> do.
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loumfover 11 years ago
This is commonly called an &quot;informational interview&quot;.<p>I don&#x27;t get how applying for a job makes you seem needy, though. If there&#x27;s actually a job opening and you are qualified for it, then why not apply? I think of informational interviews as being a way to network into jobs that don&#x27;t exist (or before they are posted)
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stevewilhelmover 11 years ago
I would try something slightly different. Use a &#x27;Trojan Horse&#x27; topic or subject. Email saying you are trying to use the company&#x27;s product or service in a current project.<p>Ask them questions about the product or service. If they are enthusiastic and helpful, that will be an indicator that the company is a good place to work. If they don&#x27;t respond, or forward you to marketing or sales, that tells you something else about the company.<p>After the initial contact, you might then ask questions about the company in general. Something like: we like the product, but are unsure if the company will be around in a year, etc. At that point the developer might just give you the standard company line, or might be more forth coming.
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dustingetzover 11 years ago
I do this quite aggressively about local companies but i know them and have mutual respect through meetups. Once you have a relationship you get lots of inside info that they would NEVER say to a stranger.
fanshenover 11 years ago
I recently did my first job search (about to graduate). I emailed one company cold and this resulted in a useful informational interview. I tried it a few other places and got no reply.<p>Note: I was not emailing a specific developer, but instead the main company contact info. Like you, I asked to talk to determine fit.<p>I got much better results when I already knew someone at the company.
robszumskiover 11 years ago
I recently had a interested party connect with me via LinkedIn specifically because I has <i>just left</i> the company and he wanted to know why. Our professions didn&#x27;t overlap too much but he was very interested in what I was doing now and what I had to say about the company. Struck me as a very smart tactic.
rodrodrodover 11 years ago
Yeap. Being on the employed side of things now, I&#x27;ve had acquaintances reach out to me with questions about the company&#x2F;work&#x2F;culture and ask me to pass their resume along. It&#x27;s only a few minutes of my time and people are quite appreciative of it, so I&#x27;m always happy to help out.
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wsxcdeover 11 years ago
I haven&#x27;t done exactly this but I have &quot;cold&quot; contacted people who I had some sort of connection with - same college, common friends, etc.<p>I usually mention this in my e-mail saying something like &quot;I&#x27;m contacting you because we both did X so I thought it might be alright to bother you.&quot;
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brodypover 11 years ago
Yes, I&#x27;ve learned a lot and made some good industry contacts this way. You have to do it gently though -- people are jealous of there time unless they understand you are a colleague worthy of respect.
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scottalpertover 11 years ago
Of course you mean doing this BEFORE any interview. (After the first interview, hopefully they&#x27;d set you up with people to talk to.)
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mandytolliverover 11 years ago
Thank you folks. I&#x27;m still wondering though -- why don&#x27;t we hear of this more often?
calcsamover 11 years ago
Offer to take them out to lunch. Keep the email short. Five sentences or less.<p>That usually works.