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Hong Kong Confirms First Human Case of Bird Flu

134 pointsby wikiburnerover 11 years ago

11 comments

bjz_over 11 years ago
For an chillingly realistic depiction of how a worldwide pandemic could unfold, I&#x27;d highly recommend watching the film Contagion (2011)[1]. For all those who complain governments and scientists overreacting to new flu strains, I would prefer that than the alternative - doing too little and being swamped by an uncontrollable virus.<p>[1] <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1598778/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.imdb.com&#x2F;title&#x2F;tt1598778&#x2F;</a>
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Anon84over 11 years ago
A few comments based on my experience working with these things back in 2009 [0]<p>1. Yes, this thing has a mortality rate of 30%. What that means is that out of all <i>detected</i> cases 30% of the people have died. The keyword here is detected. At this stage, and without a massive surveillance plan looking for specifically for serological evidence of the virus, authorities are only aware of a tiny fraction of the actual cases (the most severe) which tend to skew the mortality rate. The actual mortality rate for the 2009 H1N1 has just now been reevaluated with more accurate data and techniques [1, 2]<p>2. So far it doesn&#x27;t seems to have crossed the threshold to be able to spread quickly from person to person. Doing that will imply a few more mutations that will likely make it less aggressive and deadly (it&#x27;s hard to spread if you kill your host too quickly).<p>3. Better than watching Contagion to get an idea of what a spread looks like at a global scale is to watch [3] which is an accurate representation of the H1N1 spreade in 2009. Each edge you see represents the (likely) first infected person traveling from an infected to an uninflected city. You can play with the (client) software we used for these simulations over at [4]<p>4. Attempts to use real time proxy data like mentions in Twitter and searches in Google to monitor the spread of infectious diseases haven&#x27;t really been very successful. Google flu trends had some early success but it seems to be breaking down recently. As usual Twitter seems to be much better at predicting the past than the future. In fact the CDC has recently launched a competition to try and do just this [5]<p>5. In summary, don&#x27;t panic. Much smarter people than myself are keeping an eye on this and it&#x27;s likely not as bad as the link baity headlines would have you believe.<p>[0] I worked directly with the official surveillance data and used it to model And forecast the worldwide spread of the virus. We were actually able to predict (and publish) the epidemic peak for dozens of countries I&#x27;m advance You can access all the relevant publications here: <a href="http://www.bgoncalves.com/publications.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bgoncalves.com&#x2F;publications.html</a><p>[1] <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/11/26/247379604/2009-flu-pandemic-was-10-times-more-deadly-than-previously-thought" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;health&#x2F;2013&#x2F;11&#x2F;26&#x2F;247379604&#x2F;2009-fl...</a>.   <p>[2] <a href="http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.1001558" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.plosmedicine.org&#x2F;article&#x2F;info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fj...</a><p>[3] <a href="http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YAf1aXCvvdU" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=YAf1aXCvvdU</a><p>[4] <a href="http://www.gleamviz.org/simulator/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gleamviz.org&#x2F;simulator&#x2F;</a><p>[5] <a href="https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/11/25/2013-28198/announcement-of-requirements-and-registration-for-the-predict-the-influenza-season-challenge" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.federalregister.gov&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2013&#x2F;11&#x2F;25&#x2F;2013-281...</a><p>Edit: spelling
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alexeisadeski3over 11 years ago
With an estimated mortality around 30%, I wouldn&#x27;t want to catch this bug.<p>Fortunately, it doesn&#x27;t seem to spread human-human particularly well - yet.<p>Mortality source: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H7N9#Mortality" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H7N9#...</a><p>Transmitability source: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H7N9#Human_to_human_transfer_of_virus" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H7N9#...</a>
AmVessover 11 years ago
Google Flu trends (near real time updates): <a href="http://www.google.org/flutrends/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.org&#x2F;flutrends&#x2F;</a><p>How they do it: <a href="http://www.google.org/flutrends/about/how.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.org&#x2F;flutrends&#x2F;about&#x2F;how.html</a>
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alanhoover 11 years ago
misleading title, it&#x27;s first case in Hong Kong but not first case in whole world
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thaumasiotesover 11 years ago
Huh, I assumed this had happened some time ago. The hong kong airport PA system has been pumping out warnings about bird flu since september at least. (&quot;Do not touch birds while in Hong Kong. If you get a cough, inform the appropriate authorities.&quot;)
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CalRobertover 11 years ago
I was just thinking I could go for another viewing of The Seventh Seal.
Kilo-byteover 11 years ago
it&#x27;s the usual flu season people, no need to fear this thing
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sirkneelandover 11 years ago
Has there been any observed correlation between public hysteria over disease outbreaks and lower airline ticket prices? I&#x27;d love to scoop up a cheap ticket for the Rugby 7s...
blahbl4hblahtooover 11 years ago
Is it time for the media to go pant shitting crazy about epidemics again? Seriously?<p>Has anyone else noticed a pattern here?
netherover 11 years ago
Holy shit, it&#x27;s happening...
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