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Why we ditched Amazon AWS

108 pointsby defiedover 11 years ago

13 comments

programminggeekover 11 years ago
This is a pet peeve of mine, but when you are running your own servers in a datacenter, that is not &quot;your own cloud&quot;, it&#x27;s just your own servers.<p>I realize the cloud is just a marketing term and it doesn&#x27;t really mean something, but if I move my single heroku dyno app to my own dedicated server sitting in my basement, did I just move it to my own private cloud?
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UK-ALover 11 years ago
&quot;AWS is expensive, as soon as we start an instance, we’re billed for the entire hour, even if we only need to run a 2 minute test on it.&quot;<p>What you really needed to do was design algorithm that keeps machines running over period in time, according to a general trend. Not shutdown, and instantly bootup for every customer deciding to run tests.
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jonaldomoover 11 years ago
For those unfamiliar with Amazon, Amazon AWS consists of over 25 different services. This article focuses on EC2, the virtual server service.<p>I use S3 and DynamoDB regularly and think the pricing is better than most. I don&#x27;t use it for pricing though. I use it because I don&#x27;t have to worry about load balancing, adding multiple servers, running out of disk space. Set it up and forget about it.
gfodorover 11 years ago
I&#x27;m confused. Noisy neighbors and the &quot;round up to the hour&quot; AWS billing can both be fixed by more active instance management. It&#x27;s not trivial but it&#x27;s also not incredibly complex. Moving completely off of AWS has huge ramifications for your business in the long run, some positive some negative, and it seems weird to make such a bold and disruptive move based upon two issues that are both well known and fairly straightforward to address.
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wikiburnerover 11 years ago
That&#x27;s funny, I was just reading this blog post from Adrian Holovaty on some of the issues he ran into with deploying Python&#x2F;Django on Heroku and how great AWS has worked out for him with Soundslice:<p><a href="http://www.holovaty.com/writing/aws-notes/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.holovaty.com&#x2F;writing&#x2F;aws-notes&#x2F;</a><p>He just about had me sold.<p>Anyway, I&#x27;m definitely in the wanting to avoid sysadmin stuff if at all possible camp. Does anyone have any thoughts on AWS vs Heroku for Django? Does Adrian&#x27;s solution seem reasonable?
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apawloskiover 11 years ago
&quot;Noisy neighbors: sometimes instances would behave much slower than usual, because other people on the same hypervisor were using all the hypervisor’s resources&quot;<p>The Xen hypervisor actually has pretty good resource allocation between virtual machines, and although there are academic attacks [1], I&#x27;m interested to hear what evidence you&#x27;ve seen of neighbors hogging your resources.<p>[1] <a href="http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~rist/papers/rfa.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;pages.cs.wisc.edu&#x2F;~rist&#x2F;papers&#x2F;rfa.pdf</a>
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ckdarbyover 11 years ago
Blog down, clearly shouldn&#x27;t have ditched AWS
chrisferryover 11 years ago
Looks like &quot;their cloud&quot; couldn&#x27;t handle Hacker News&#x27; traffic. Had they set up their blog in an AutoScaling group in EC2 this would not have been a problem :)
fat0wlover 11 years ago
Ahhhh whew. I thought this was gonna be an article about people switching back to Heroku &amp; my blood was gonna get all angried up.<p>On the other hand, people wanting to set up their own server clusters... VMs... Linux container stuff... that&#x27;s heartwarming :)
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patrickg_zillover 11 years ago
I would encourage you to look at OpenVZ for anything Linux-based. Starts faster, uses less resources than KVM.<p>The gain might not be much however, given how powerful today&#x27;s CPUs are.
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oomkillerover 11 years ago
Any reason why you didn&#x27;t just OpenStack instead?
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tsmithover 11 years ago
Awesome blog post Jochen! And thanks for the Gridcentric shout-out :-)
seaghostover 11 years ago
It better to say it doesn&#x27;t fit your business model.
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