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Ask HN: Posts being unjustly removed from front page?

8 pointsby jqueryinover 11 years ago
Today I browsed to Hacker News as I do every day and noticed a front page post on &quot;How I Made $6,000 in 7 Days with my Ebook.&quot; A friend of mine, Jeremy Olson, has a similar success story. Jeremy and his partner Nathan Barry wrote &quot;The App Design Handbook&quot; and pulled in $36,297 in the first 24 hours and over $56,000 in the first month. He posted these earnings on Twitter at which point I urged him to write up a blog post regarding his success. Jeremy replied with the following disheartening tweet:<p><pre><code> &quot;@cballou kind of like this? [url redacted] That actually hit HN homepage but the mods took it down :(&quot; </code></pre> He also followed up our conversation with:<p><pre><code> &quot;@cballou yeah, actually we’ve had several posts taken off the front page. Don’t get it&quot; </code></pre> My question to the HN community, and particularly the mods, is WTFMATE?<p>Jeremy is a well respected member of the community with an Apple Design Award under his belt. He has a substantial following in the iOS community and my initial inclination is that him sharing the blog post led to upvotes which triggered flagging&#x2F;deleting his post. I believe that in the case of a post deemed to be as beneficial to the community as this one, you&#x27;d realize it&#x27;s likely not upvote gaming but true interest.<p>I&#x27;ll follow up with links to the Twitter conversation and the original article that was removed.

6 comments

arh68over 11 years ago
<i>Unjustly</i>? The front page is automated: it is not a human entity. It has no notion of fairness or justice.<p>Do you understand all of the technical reasons why posts are penalized off the front page? Do you have improvements to the ranking? Or is this merely a rant? Sometimes things get unfortunately demoted. Life goes on.
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brudgersover 11 years ago
Seeing as the original story was posted over a month ago timing definitely is a factor. There&#x27;s nothing unjust about it, timing [or luck if you like] plays a role. That&#x27;s just the way HN works.<p>ALL-CAPS in the recent submission may have played a role - it&#x27;s the sort of thing which might trigger a spam filter.<p>More importantly, the statement that &quot;several posts&quot; were taken off the front page lends itself to the possibility that some of the posts did not make the front page organically - i.e. the complaint is consistent with using standard social media promotional techniques on HN.
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jqueryinover 11 years ago
Here&#x27;s the accompanying Twitter conversation that led to me posting:<p><a href="https://twitter.com/jerols/status/408977497255337984" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;jerols&#x2F;status&#x2F;408977497255337984</a><p>Here&#x27;s the initial blog post that was removed:<p>$36,297 IN 24 HOURS: BEHIND THE SCENES OF THE APP DESIGN HANDBOOK LAUNCH<p><a href="http://nathanbarry.com/app-design-stats/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;nathanbarry.com&#x2F;app-design-stats&#x2F;</a>
chrisbennetover 11 years ago
My view is that PG base given us a place to call attention to things that you think might be interesting to other folks. While it is nice to get some validation that others agree with you, I don&#x27;t think that should be the aim of the poster. Instead I think one should post to HN as a charitable act and not whine if you or your post doesn&#x27;t get the attention you think it deserves. IMO, it is a gift to the community not a &quot;look at me&quot; opportunity.
dansoover 11 years ago
Here&#x27;s the highest upvoted version of it:<p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6712226" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=6712226</a><p>It seems to have been submitted a few times in short succession:<p><a href="https://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/all&amp;q=%2436%2C297+IN+24+HOURS" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hnsearch.com&#x2F;search#request&#x2F;all&amp;q=%2436%2C297+IN...</a><p>It&#x27;s possible that the original submission just wasn&#x27;t noticed, so a couple of submitters tried resubmitting it, and a wary mod treated it as spam.
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j_sover 11 years ago
<a href="http://hnrankings.info/6712226/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hnrankings.info&#x2F;6712226&#x2F;</a>
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