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A strong defense of Clifford Stoll

34 pointsby Articulateover 11 years ago

9 comments

bronsonover 11 years ago
This seems like a glass half empty &#x2F; half full situation. &quot;Why The Web Won&#x27;t Be Nirvana&quot; got a lot wrong, true, but it also got a lot right. His prediction of books not being sold on the web was incorrect, but his explanation of why (cold, less fun at the beach) still applies. Yes, the Eternal September happened, but it wasn&#x27;t as bad as some feared. I haven&#x27;t read Silicon Snake Oil but I did read the original The Road Ahead. Silicon Snake Oil can&#x27;t be much worse than that, can it?<p>So... Many years ago my Tek 7904 oscilloscope fried itself. Again. I realized I just don&#x27;t have the time to keep it limping along. I bought a soulless DSO then posted a Craigslist ad for my whole setup (12+ plugins including 7CT1N, probes, cart, ...) at an absurdly cheap price. This machine that I had been trusting for a decade, it had to go. Quick, because this was depressing.<p>One person responded to the first ad. Cliff complimented the squigglescope and chatted about how great these old tools can be and how he uses them in high school classes because the new stuff just doesn&#x27;t teach as well. He said he couldn&#x27;t do anything about mine but offered some suggestions and that he&#x27;d keep an eye out for a suitable home.<p>That made my day.<p>The scope sold second try. Hope it&#x27;s fixed and keeping someone&#x27;s bench warm somewhere. No doubt Cliff is still resisting technology and doing his part to make the world a more welcoming place.
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bsirkiaover 11 years ago
I posted this in the comment section of that article when it was posted here earlier, his response in 2010 made me love the dude, even if he couldn&#x27;t see 15 years into the future:<p>&quot;Of my many mistakes, flubs, and howlers, few have been as public as my 1995 howler.<p>Wrong? Yep.<p>At the time, I was trying to speak against the tide of futuristic commentary on how The Internet Will Solve Our Problems. Gives me pause. Most of my screwups have had limited publicity: Forgetting my lines in my 4th grade play. Misidentifying a Gilbert and Sullivan song while suddenly drafted to fill in as announcer on a classical radio station. Wasting a week hunting for planets interior to Mercury’s orbit using an infrared system with a noise level so high that it couldn’t possibly detect ‘em. Heck – trying to dry my sneakers in a microwave oven (a quarter century later, there’s still a smudge on the kitchen ceiling)<p>And, as I’ve laughed at others’ foibles, I think back to some of my own cringeworthy contributions.<p>Now, whenever I think I know what’s happening, I temper my thoughts: Might be wrong, Cliff…<p>Warm cheers to all, -Cliff Stoll on a rainy Friday afternoon in Oakland&quot;<p><a href="http://boingboing.net/2010/02/26/curmudgeony-essay-on.html#comment-723356" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;boingboing.net&#x2F;2010&#x2F;02&#x2F;26&#x2F;curmudgeony-essay-on.html#c...</a>
aaron695over 11 years ago
A bit strawperson-ey<p>No one hates him, he wrote a very funny book on catching a computer hacker.<p>But he&#x27;s just totally hopeless at predicting the future. Nothing to do with that article but he&#x27;s one of the first non fiction authors I read (Silicon Snake Oil) and realised he just doesn&#x27;t get it. He&#x27;s a bit of a Luddite(In a non offensive way)
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gdubsover 11 years ago
I read his books when I was young and impressionable, and impress upon me they did. Wrong or not, I think his alternative perspectives about technology are more than healthy. For all the good, there&#x27;s definitely a lot of snake oil out there, and there&#x27;s definitely a lot of good in enjoying life&#x27;s simple things: friendships, food, gardening, music.<p>Negroponte is a freak of nature (a compliment). I read an older book of his recently, and he was incredibly accurate about so many predictions. Interesting to go back and read predictions (both the wrong ones and the right ones) and try to understand the frame of mind that those with insight possess. Steve Jobs (by way of Wayne Gretzky) called it &quot;skating to where the puck is going to be&quot;. Paul Allen called it &quot;reading the chips&quot; (like &quot;reading the tea-leaves&quot;, you could say).<p>Anyway, it&#x27;s really worth reading Stoll&#x27;s books. They&#x27;re entertaining, well-written, and are a nice counter-balance to the hype we ingest on a daily basis.
chris_wotover 11 years ago
Thank you. He&#x27;s a great man.
bazzarghover 11 years ago
I reread the Cuckoo&#x27;s Egg only last week, it&#x27;s still very enjoyable. One striking thing, given recent relevations, was the role of the NSA - Stoll had slight counterculture suspicions of what they were capable of, but generally they were treated as trustworthy security experts. This line - when Stoll hears about a vulnerability in VMS 4.5 - is especially funny in retrospect:<p>&quot;Wait a second. That operating system was certified by NSA. They tested it and certified it secure.&quot;
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elwellover 11 years ago
It&#x27;s spelled &quot;silicon&quot;, and &quot;klein bottles&quot;.
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0xdeadbeefbabeover 11 years ago
But what about Martha?
logjamover 11 years ago
Cliff Stoll is a fantastic guy: warm, creative, super genius smart, and a truly giving human being.<p>Makes fantastic Klein bottles too.