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Guide to Leaving your Mac

76 pointsby gigasquidover 11 years ago

19 comments

jmdukeover 11 years ago
I&#x27;ve got an iPhone, iPad, and MBA. In an abstract sense -- that is, all other things equal -- I&#x27;d like to swap them out for non-Apple products. I dislike Apple&#x27;s software, their entire &quot;magic&#x2F;creative&#x2F;yadda-yadda-yadda&quot; branding, and of course their price tag.<p>But the app ecosystem and hardware to me seem absolutely incomparable. I can&#x27;t see myself ever switching my phone or tablet because it seems as though iOS apps are just unapproachably better than Android counterparts -- and there aren&#x27;t any laptops as functional and, yes, straight-up pretty as the MacBook Air.<p>(The reason the author cited for switching from Apple was two failed laptops. For what it&#x27;s worth, my previous laptop -- a Dell -- broke every six months or so. [I had four-year insurance, thankfully, and replaced it once the insurance ran out.]
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jkelseyover 11 years ago
The author was having hardware problems, so he switched his software? There&#x27;s nothing more open about Dell&#x27;s hardware than Apple&#x27;s and just because Dell offers a laptop with Linux does that mean you&#x27;re now in some sort of open-source utopia where the open-source community comes together to solve every single computer problem that users encounter.<p>Don&#x27;t get me wrong, I think Linux is great and there&#x27;s tons of awesome open-source projects, but I don&#x27;t think Ubuntu is one of them. If you&#x27;ve been following Canonical&#x27;s behavior with Ubuntu over the past few years, you should be aware of what I&#x27;m talking about. And Dell? Well, their XPS laptops do seem to be of higher quality than what most of the PC industry offers, but support? I&#x27;m sorry, but I feel much more confidence in the Genius Bar.<p>Apple&#x27;s not perfect, but the rest of the latop manufacturers are a joke.
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eddierogerover 11 years ago
Every time I consider ditching my MacBook for a Linux machine, I come back to wondering why I&#x27;d want to do that at all. If it&#x27;s to appease my command-line-junky insides, I can open up Terminal (or iTerm 2) and have instant UNIX. If it&#x27;s to run some LAMP-esque stack, I can fire up homebrew and have everything I want. And if I don&#x27;t really want to deal with the inner-workings of a machine, I can spend time in Aqua and have access to some of the best designed software in the game. Lastly, it plays with my ecosystem of gadgets - my iPhone and iPad are first class citizens, and thanks to iCloud and quality developers, things work seamlessly between all my tech, including my AppleTV through mirroring or extended display in Mavericks. I realize that this last bit makes me not the target audience for the article anymore, but it&#x27;s worth saying.<p>The author states his only reason for leaving is failed hardware. I&#x27;ve had nothing but great experiences with Apple&#x27;s hardware, and in the few rare exceptions, Apple has gone above and beyond to make the situation right. Fixes after warranty period, quick turnaround, etc, have kept my business with them.
w1ntermuteover 11 years ago
At least there&#x27;s the option of leaving Macs for other brands. As a ThinkPad user, I&#x27;m totally fucked because of Lenovo&#x27;s decision to get rid of the physical TrackPoint buttons[0]. First they got rid of the traditional keyboard in favor an Apple-style chiclet keyboard (which, after using both extensively, is a severe downgrade from the traditional ThinkPad keyboard). Now they&#x27;re getting rid of the TrackPoint buttons. Next is going to be the TrackPoint, all in the name of copying Apple. There&#x27;s no one else making a proper TrackPoint (and HP and Dell are ditching what they did have), and using a trackpad is so slow. It&#x27;s sad to see Lenovo take a great laptop line and turn it into an Apple clone.<p>0: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXa0XzNvuZU" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=UXa0XzNvuZU</a>
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zacinbusinessover 11 years ago
I really want to like Linux. I&#x27;ve spent hours, here and there, hacking away with various distributions of Linux and on different hardware (I was part of the group that finally got CompizFusion working on the HP Mininote 2133). But when it comes down to it I don&#x27;t want to have to be elbow deep in source code just to fix a sound card problem or similar.<p>I love Linux as an idea, and that it&#x27;s free has done wonders for the world as far as opening access to the internet and its knowledge. But I just don&#x27;t see it as a viable day-to-day OS <i></i>for me<i></i>.<p>At the same time, I have and will continue to tinker around with Linux (I learned about Lua because of Conky!) because I don&#x27;t think that there&#x27;s any harm in learning new things. And I&#x27;ve found that I learn best by breaking things and then trying to fix what I broke - and that&#x27;s a nearly weekly experience for me when I try to use anything but Unbuntu.
msluyterover 11 years ago
The article doesn&#x27;t address what for me are the major sticking points: iTunes and iPhoto. I have years of music &amp; photos stored in both, and to switch to linux I&#x27;d need an relatively painless migration strategy. Anyone have any suggestions?
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busterarmover 11 years ago
I have a mid-2011 Mac Mini and for a while considered an rMBP almost necessary. Instead of shelling out for one, I stuck a $40 SSD in a Lenovo x100e I had sitting around and installed Arch on it (after a decade or so of being a Slackware user). Best computing decision I ever made.<p>For one, I prefer the smaller form factor, trackpoint and much superior keyboard (even if it&#x27;s still chiclet). Secondly, I hardly ever use X. I get so much more work done on this laptop than I can on any other computer and it&#x27;s relatively distraction-free (I added a couple roguelikes and dwarf fortress). Just log in and tmux is ready to go with what I need to start working.<p>The one downside is that, on the occasions that I do use X, the fonts aren&#x27;t very good. I wouldn&#x27;t even begin to know how to approach making typography more Mac-like, but I&#x27;m okay with that. I spend 99% of my time in the console.<p>In fact, going forward I see myself using a VPS or running a dedicated server somewhere and then it doesn&#x27;t really matter what laptop I use.
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derengelover 11 years ago
Is sad but the MBA really has no rival, quality&#x2F;hardware wise.
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wandermattover 11 years ago
Would be more useful to hear a retrospective after six months.
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cgtyoderover 11 years ago
It&#x27;s unfortunate that your Apple hardware experience was so poor, but you&#x27;re really not going to have better luck elsewhere - all the major hw manufacturers have a fairly similar failure rate [1] (Apple apparently is one of the better ones). You just got unlucky.<p>[1] <a href="http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_laptop_reliability_1109.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.squaretrade.com&#x2F;htm&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;SquareTrade_laptop_reliab...</a> <a href="http://www.statisticbrain.com/laptop-malfunction-rates/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.statisticbrain.com&#x2F;laptop-malfunction-rates&#x2F;</a>
mmanfrinover 11 years ago
I recently switched my Windows desktop to Ubuntu, with the intention of making myself an at-home desktop dev environment. I still use my Macbook for work, and my MBA for personal dev.<p>My thoughts have been positive, Ubuntu is much nicer than I remember previous brushes with Linux being. A lot of things required slight configuration, but Ubuntu and Linux have hit that critical mass that most of my problems can be solved with a simple search. However, there are a few persistent problems that have lots of different solutions that dont all seem to work; and I feel there are lots of lacking areas in the app ecosystem. For instance, there does not seem to be a single well-designed SQL gui for linux. Everything looks out of Windows-ME-era-enterprise. For Macs, you have Sequel Pro amongst a lot of strong competition. Additionally, homebrew is a lot easier&#x2F;more robust than apt-get; no repositories to deal with.<p>I think this all points to something about me, specifically: I want software to make <i>some</i> assumptions for me. Brew does this, apt-get doesnt. This is both the strength of Mac and the strength of Linux -- they cater to the level of assumption that their camps want. I, unfortunately, want more assumption.<p>Also, as a small side note, I can&#x27;t get League of Legends to work on WINE, so I am unable to play with excoworkers -- that was the main way we kept in touch and it&#x27;s pushing me to a point that I might put Windows back on my desktop, if only to have that connection back -- a little juvenile, but oh well.
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pimeysover 11 years ago
For me the real breakthrough was to get rid of Ubuntu and install Arch and configure everything by myself for my laptop. It was super fun, learning to use systemd and making everything to work. Having xmonad, with pretty fonts, automatic suspend, wifi, vpn and all that working. And it was not at all that hard and took me one night and a couple of beers to get everything done.<p>I might be different than most of computer users, but I really do enjoy doing everything by myself. Now I know exactly what&#x27;s wrong if something breaks. And Arch (or Funtoo, my work distro) are much easier to configure with a text editor compared to Ubuntu (or if we go this path, to OSX). I like systemd much more than upstart or launchd. I like the idea of a rolling release, so I don&#x27;t have the nerve breaking massive updates every now and then.<p>But if just switching from OSX to a Unity distro, for me that wouldn&#x27;t be enough to switch.
kevinchenover 11 years ago
I wouldn&#x27;t take OS X vs Linux advice from a person who calls her computer a &quot;Mac Air&quot;
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prg318over 11 years ago
This article mentions that there is no native 1Password client for Linux and recommends some kind of dropbox workaround. While this probably true at the time of writing, Icculus recently wrote a native Linux client [1]. There&#x27;s more details about it in this G+ post if you are interested:<p>- <a href="https://plus.google.com/+RyanGordon/posts/ZFyb9TQS9zB" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;plus.google.com&#x2F;+RyanGordon&#x2F;posts&#x2F;ZFyb9TQS9zB</a><p>[1] <a href="https://icculus.org/1pass/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;icculus.org&#x2F;1pass&#x2F;</a>
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latchover 11 years ago
I looked at getting a Sputnik 3, but it&#x27;s available only in select countries and 16GB isn&#x27;t an option (nor is it for MBA, but it is for the relatively light rMBP).<p>And I hate the Dell logo. In fact, I hate all text logos. It&#x27;s ridiculous. 150&quot; TVs in shopping malls with a huge &quot;SAMSUNG&quot; or &quot;SONY&quot; at the bottom. If you have to do something, use some image (an apple, the ubuntu reactor thing, windows 4 squares...)
baneover 11 years ago
I currently split time between a 15&quot; rMBP and a few Windows 7 machines and to be honest, I prefer the time on my Windows 7 machines despite many downsides.<p>Every few years I&#x27;ll have a go at going Mac (this is try #3) and they&#x27;ll all sort of peter out and I&#x27;ll end up back in Windows.<p>I think this current go around has been the most successful, I <i>love</i> my rMBP hardware. And the work that Apple has put into making touchpads actually useful (both with hardware and software) is miraculous. The keyboards are nice typing experiences (I&#x27;m more mixed on the magic mouse). It&#x27;s also an awesome portable virtualization platform that I&#x27;ve had 4 or 5 Linux VMs all up and running like a champ on it. Multiple workspaces are usually awesome, I keep several workspaces for different semantic parts of my day and the flow is really nice. Airdrop is magic.<p>For the <i>most</i> part things just work.<p>To try and make it really stick, I went cold turkey for the better part of 9 months and didn&#x27;t touch a Windows machine.<p>But then, small frustrations and irritations finally built up and I recently just built myself a new Windows 7 computer and pretty much use it for all of my day-to-day with my Mac sitting in a travel bag for when I need to go on the road. What is it that keeps pushing me back? I&#x27;ve spent a <i>lot</i> of time thinking about why this is and sorta have it narrowed down to a few user scenarios: Here&#x27;s 1 line of reasoning:<p>1. When I&#x27;m using my Mac, I find I try and avoid actually interacting with OS X as much as possible. I spend all of my time in Office, a web browser, a console window or a virtualized linux machine and that gets me through 95% of my day.<p>2. Digging in deeper and I find that OS X, while having some nice bits here and there (as discussed above), is so full of so many clumsy frustrations that I&#x27;ve never really been able to get over the feeling of reduced productivity when I&#x27;m dealing with it. I&#x27;ve realized that I deal with this by simply avoiding doing the things that frustrate or irritate me. Some of this probably stems from me not wanting to do things the prescribed &quot;Apple way&quot; and wanting to do it my own way. But it&#x27;s irritating enough that I want to get away from the entire system after any extended interaction with the OS bits.<p>3. By and large this is focused on Finder (there&#x27;s other issues, but Finder is the biggest problem I have), which is probably the single worst file manager I&#x27;ve used in 30 years of computing, and no amount of &quot;getting used to it&quot; seems to alleviate the simple fact that it sucks. I&#x27;ve tried a couple replacements, but they all seem to scratch some small itch and nothing really comes close to the magical file management wonderland that is the Windows 7 Explorer. It&#x27;s so bad that even after a solid year with my Mac I still can&#x27;t reliably predict where a new folder is going to be created. I know this makes me sound impossibly dumb, but these kinds of simple file management interface problems have been <i>solved</i> everywhere else. Even the various Linux file managers work better and more reliably. I would be so much more interested in staying on my Mac if I knew I could manage files without feeling like I was poking around a dark damp hole trying to sort through and pick up grains of rice with my elbows. I could go on for pages ranting about the abortion of ideas that is Finder, but let&#x27;s just conclude that I hate it.<p>4. I realized that one of the reasons I spend so much time in a terminal then is because managing files form the command line is better! (the other reason I&#x27;m in the command line is so I can ssh into my linux VMs)<p>5. so if most of what I&#x27;m doing is Chrome, Office, ssh and Linux via VirtualBox, which are essentially equivalent experiences in OS X or Windows, and then doing OS things like moving files around works better in Windows, why should I still use my Mac?<p>I&#x27;ve come up with other lines of reasoning:<p>- all of the media production tools I personally work with have emphasized Windows development over Mac development for a while or no Mac equivalent exists at all.<p>- retrocomputing and retrogaming, which I have a deep personal interest in, has a far richer ecosystem under Windows and the tools that have version for both OSs tend to work better in Windows. Also moving around and organizing tens of thousands of files related to this hobby is much better under Windows<p>- another hobby, photography, I shoot thousands upon thousands of photos and haven&#x27;t met an photo organizing tool I like, so I manage everything on the filesystem, which again means I&#x27;m avoiding finder<p>- Until Mavericks, multi-monitor support with full-screen apps was broken, and there&#x27;s no excuse for it. None. Maximize was solved in Windows 3.0. <i>23 years ago</i><p>- OS X seems to keep growing interface hair, meaning what started as simple elegant design slowly accumulated feature cruft until the design is no longer simple or elegant and the design wasn&#x27;t really flexible enough to accommodate this growing interface hair. Witness the madness around the resizing window buttons in OS X. But all the various crap that shows up in my menubar vs. sometimes in my dock vs. sometimes nowhere but ps, etc. Or the haphazard combinations of modifier hotkey combinations that don&#x27;t really carryover between apps, a legacy of the one-button mouse movement which is now just vestigial, but now means I have to keep track of which combination of shift, fn, control, option and command to use in <i>some</i> combination <i>before</i> I even think about what button I need to push to modify some other key to do some menial task that&#x27;s standard and two buttons in Windows.<p>- Even after taking hundreds of screen shots over the last year, I <i>still</i> have to lookup the madness of screen capture in OS X every single time I sit down to take more screen shots. Here&#x27;s a 3 page article on it. <a href="http://osxdaily.com/2010/05/13/print-screen-mac/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;osxdaily.com&#x2F;2010&#x2F;05&#x2F;13&#x2F;print-screen-mac&#x2F;</a> Sure I don&#x27;t get a &quot;prt scr&quot; key on the keyboard, but I get half a dozen key modifier keys and an eject key. I&#x27;ll sometimes just put off the task till I get home and just do it in Windows it&#x27;s so irritating.<p>- There&#x27;s no paint program that ships with OS X. Boggles the mind.<p>- Having to buy and install tons of little apps to &quot;fix&quot; some broken or poorly designed behavior in the default apps that ship with the OS. This isn&#x27;t like buying photoshop because it fixed paint. Photoshop is a different level entirely to paint. This is like iTerm2 which is <i>almost</i> exactly like, but just fixes a few things and adds a couple things to iTerm. And this kind of drop-in replacement cancer permeates the entire Mac experience. There&#x27;s entire ecosystems of slightly different replacements for the default apps, and it&#x27;s entirely expected that setting up a new mac will involve hunting these down and installing them to replace the broken stuff that the OS ships with. I&#x27;m really just exhausted of both this process and the attitude that this is a perfectly normal and sane thing to do. It&#x27;s not, the OS is shipped broken and Apple needs to fix this stuff.<p>- Video performance is noticeably better in Windows. I&#x27;m not sure what it is, but I find my Mac has lots of little screen-tearing issues, and watching full-screen video on it just isn&#x27;t as snappy (using VLC on both) as it was on my 6 year old Windows box (before I built my current one).<p>- Things usually <i>just</i> work in OS X. But when they don&#x27;t you enter a world of mystery that goes as deep as a computer science degree can take you. In Windows, these days things also more or less <i>just</i> work, but when they don&#x27;t, there&#x27;s a kind of expectation in the design that you&#x27;re likely to have an issue so there&#x27;s all sorts of good error reporting and resolution paths to try and exhaust before even having to start searching forums for advice.<p>- I need to read NTFS volumes frequently and OS X&#x27;s default NTFS compatibility sucks and the fixes are out of date and don&#x27;t work very well either. In contrast, I&#x27;ve never had to read an HFS (or whatever Apple journaled blah blah file system) volume.<p>- no dedicated page up&#x2F;down home or end keys. I use those keys <i>all</i> the time. Why are they gone? It&#x27;s irritating having to hunt down a modifier key and an arrow and hope that you figured out the magic combination that&#x27;s &quot;home&quot;.<p>- I can&#x27;t multi-tab drag in Chrome. I drag groups of tabs around in Windows all the time. Doesn&#x27;t work in OS X.<p>- minimized windows are a pain to bring up. Therefore I don&#x27;t minimize in OS X. The dock (especially when auto-hid) is flaky and won&#x27;t show up half the time. The delay for when it <i>does</i> feel like popping up when my mouse is down at the bottom of the screen feels entirely random.<p>- I don&#x27;t like any of the text editors I&#x27;ve tried. I just end up in vi in iterm. But I really want a good text editor.<p>- VNC is not a suitable remote desktop solution compared to RDP. It&#x27;s just not. I Remote into half a dozen machines over the course of a day and wish I had a decent way to remote into my Mac that wasn&#x27;t VNC.<p>- and more and more and more<p>I&#x27;m sure there are built in solutions I&#x27;m overlooking, or some app I can install that fixes this or modifies that, or some setting that makes something behave better than the default. But the point is that outside of applications that exist on both platforms equally, I&#x27;m avoiding or annoyed with everything else on the platform. I&#x27;m committed to sticking it out and have even resolved to spend more time on my mac - especially post-Mavericks. But it&#x27;s just not a better computing experience for me. It&#x27;s interesting and it&#x27;s different, and it makes me yearn for certain things that windows doesn&#x27;t have (multiple workspaces), but when the equivalent functions work better in Windows I&#x27;m forced to choose the easier and less frustrating environment to spend time in.
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shalalalaover 11 years ago
I happen to like the hardware a bit more than when I first got the MBPr, but would LOVE to have a good Debian install guide for this puppy. Heck, I might even settle for Ubuntu in the meantime.
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7stark7over 11 years ago
My experience:<p>Broken motherboard AND screen on my Macbook air.<p>Apple replaced both for free, with no AppleCare.<p>I have a few other stories just like this one.
greatsuccessover 11 years ago
I don&#x27;t need a guide to leaving the best computer currently made. If I had to use a PC I don&#x27;t know if I would bother with computers at all except for my job. PC laptops have the reputation they deserve and I think they not only tarnished personal&#x2F;mobile computing as a general concept (only to be rescued by Apple), PC laptops should be the first category of the PC family to die out completely and save people the misery and disillusionment that when you buy such a thing, that you think you actually bought something.<p>And Im not even saying Windows laptops, this is a commodity hardware issue combined with fantastically disappointing software (Windows or Ubuntu), but I wouldn&#x27;t want one running OS X either.<p>It&#x27;s time for the PC industry to take out its own trash.
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