'I'm going to delete an email because it has a CV in an editable format it in'<p>'Ask me to telnet into your CV or solve an algorithm that prints your CV...'<p>--<p>If everyone had the ability to read minds and know how a given employer wants to see their resume/CV, then a 'standard format' wouldn't be necessary. But because the powers of long-range telepathy have evaded us so far, we end up agreeing as a society that certain formats are acceptable. It's not that we personally like them, but it's 'safe'. It's considered normal and there is kind of an unspoken agreement between everyone that a .doc or .docx file is acceptable.<p>If you ask 99% of employers to telnet into your CV, they are probably going to tell you to kindly fuck off, and so you don't.<p>--<p>'They’re going to complain about overtime'<p>The idea that you don't want to hire people who are motivated strictly by a paycheck is fine, but this attitude right here breeds the shitty culture in software development we have today, where 60, 70, 80+ work weeks are considered normal and 'if you don't like it, leave'. It's poisonous to an entire industry. People have lives -- I like to volunteer at my local zoo and write music in my free time. If I had a job that just expected dozens of overtime hours every week because 'reasons', then I'm not taking it.<p>--<p>In the real world, people do want jobs. People do want jobs they love, and they are willing to give up a lot for jobs they love, and you might be providing them with one, but you need to come down to earth and realize that this isn't the only job they will ever apply for and expecting to be super impressed by the way they apply for the job is unrealistic, unfair, and I dare say, 'out of touch'. These people also have lives outside of work. Hobbies, family, friends and such take time and if you are hiring people that are willing to give up all of that in the name of work, I'd be really concerned for them.
I stopped reading after `I Hate Word Docs`<p>If you have any plans to apply to any job besides your open position, they need to be in a word document for all of the shitty ATS. Don't be that guy who makes someone take an extra step just to apply to your open positions. I don't disagree with the premise at all, I'd rather send PDF docs over word but the geniuses in HRT decided against that.
I have worked with recruiters before and just wanted to say a few things about this:<p>1. The Word Doc is not the fault of the Developer.<p>Every time I send my CV out it is a PDF, but Recruiters usually ask me to send them a Doc instead.
"How can I hire a developer who can’t even understand file formats?"
This is a wrong conclusion I think, the Developer probably knows that a PDF would be better, but he has no choice if he wants to work with the recruiter.<p>2. how relevant is a traditional CV<p>I don't know how relevant a traditional CV is, but I know that there are great developers that simply can not pump everything they do onto GitHub because the type of Contract they have with their employers.
This means that a CV would be the only way to show what they have done in those years without breaking their Contracts. Or do you think that someone that can do a little Play project on GitHub really does not even have to show what else he did?<p>3. "desperate, so driven by money"<p>Every time I work with a recruiter it works like this: The recruiter contacts me and tells me about a company that would be interested in working with me and I send him my CV.
The reason I send him my CV is because it is no work at all and I want to find out if it is a interesting company. This doesn't mean that I am desperate and so far money didn't even come up once.
And also I have not "gone to" a suit-and-tie recruiter the suit-and-tie recruiter came to me.