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World's First Massive Online Degree Program Starts Today

102 pointsby ibsathishover 11 years ago

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RafiqMover 11 years ago
Since when is a 375 person class massive?<p>I&#x27;m all for what Udacity, Coursera, and others are trying to do, but there have been proper online universities such as the Open University doing this for years with hundreds of types of degrees, and with bigger classes.<p>Let&#x27;s put the &quot;massive&quot; back in &quot;MooC&quot;.<p>Also, $7k? I can get a on-campus CS masters in a world top 100 university here in Ireland for that price. I guess education in the US must be ultra expensive.
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noelwelshover 11 years ago
Most interesting to me was this: &quot;88% of the applicants are US-based as compared to 10% for the on-campus degree.&quot; My guess is that the $7K price that seems revolutionary in the US is just too expensive in a worldwide context. At lot of international students do come to the US, but that&#x27;s for traditional on-campus education. If you&#x27;re not going all-in in that manner, might as well attend a local institution for a fraction of the cost. This kinda puts paid to some of the MOOC rhetoric of opening education to the masses.<p>On the other hand, I&#x27;m really happy to see Udacity developing a viable business model. Coursera has received a lot more publicity, with their wider range of courses, but haven&#x27;t seem to put as much emphasis on developed a sustainable income stream. I like what both of these companies do and would like to see them stick around.
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someguy235over 11 years ago
I&#x27;m one of the students that was admitted to this first round of classes. I&#x27;ve been taking MOOC&#x27;s since the first round of Stanford courses in 2011, so I was excited to see this program develop just as I was applying to other graduate schools.<p>Admission for the first round was very limited to keep it manageable while they address any issues that come up early in the new program (and there have been a few, though nothing major). I think the original idea was to offer 6 classes and allow 100 students per class - 600 total. But only 5 classes ended up being offered, and the total acceptance was lowered further as students will take more than one class at a time. Within a few semesters they intend to accept anyone who meets the qualifications, with no regard to class size.<p>Regarding the cost, it is in fact revolutionary for US residents. My bill for the one class I&#x27;m taking was $700 ($400 in flat fees and $100 per credit hour). My next choice of school was NC State which would have cost several times that even though I&#x27;m an NC resident. A good out of state school, even a public one, would have likely been unaffordable to me. At this rate my employer&#x27;s limited education reimbursement program will cover the entire cost of my degree with GaTech.
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dmunozover 11 years ago
A few thoughts:<p>2,360 people applied, each paying a $50 admission fee [0]. That&#x27;s a cool 118k for admissions triaging. Also on that page, we can see they originally said up to 600 people would be admitted for the pilot program. They admitted 375, with some deferring admission. Maybe the entire 225 other people deferred, but if not I wonder why they scaled back the pilot program.<p>The average age is 35 for the pilot program vs. 24 for on-campus masters. Interesting, but not very surprising. I&#x27;m not far past the on-campus age, but I&#x27;m keeping my eyes on such programs for the future.<p>The specialities they plan to offer is also in [0]. When I first read that page, I was saddened not to see any options related to programming languages. My only other major speciality interest was operating systems, but I burnt out on that a little. The software development process material sounds interesting. I bet there will be a lot of interest in the AI&#x2F;Robots and machine learning specialities through this program.<p>I wonder when the courses will be made available for free? An early post about the program promised that &quot;the bare content will be available free of charge.&quot; [1] I was hoping to get an idea of what the courses would be like early this year. I don&#x27;t see anything on Udacity about the courses at the moment.<p>All that said, I&#x27;m excited about this program by Udacity and Georgia Tech, even given the apparent failure of MOOCs we have been hearing about. I say apparent, as I think measuring percent-to-complete is misguided, as I know I have gained plenty of knowledge from courses being offered without completing them. The movement to corporate sponsored project courses is interesting, but I&#x27;m not a big fan of the idea to pay to &quot;commit to your success&quot; [2]. The extra guidance will be a boon for some people, though.<p>[0] <a href="https://www.udacity.com/GeorgiaTech" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.udacity.com&#x2F;GeorgiaTech</a><p>[1] <a href="http://blog.udacity.com/2013/05/sebastian-thrun-announcing-online.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.udacity.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;05&#x2F;sebastian-thrun-announcing-o...</a><p>[2] <a href="https://www.udacity.com/success" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.udacity.com&#x2F;success</a>
kriroover 11 years ago
Some dreaming on my part...<p>I&#x27;m rooting for this to work out. If you can do it alongside a job they could very well &quot;compete with nonconsumption&quot; of sorts. This already exists on somewhat large scale in some countries. The biggest (by enrolment) university in Germany is a &quot;Fernuniversität&quot;<p>Ultimately I hope these take off, prices go down (they become essentially free with payments for taking tests i.e. universities become more certification agencies). Hope the brand name of universities will be measured by the quality of the free education they provide in the future. 7k$ is not a price point that excites me.<p>And of course I hope this leads to the non-online classes getting better and better as they have to provide truely great value.<p>[especially for CS I could also see companies tapping in and offering some sort of mentoring&#x2F;intern programs]
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eonilover 11 years ago
Does U.S.(or any other country) government recognize this degree for working visa or immigration? (H-1B &#x2F; green card)
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dragonwriterover 11 years ago
It&#x27;s a not particularly massive online degree program using similar mechanisms to those used in MOOCs for classes—but it&#x27;s not the <i>first</i> such program by any stretch of the imagination. Such programs are actually <i>older</i> than free MOOCs, and a number of instutions have had them for years; Kaplan has several, including a JD program.<p>This seems to be the first to try to leverage the attention to MOOCs in te marketing, and might be the first non-professional graduate program of the type.
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busoniover 11 years ago
For more information on the cross section of those admitted, see this article: <a href="http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/12/13/georgia-tech-admits-first-cohort-ahead-online-masters-degree-program-launch" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.insidehighered.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2013&#x2F;12&#x2F;13&#x2F;georgia-tech-a...</a>
freigeistover 11 years ago
I like Udacity&#x27;s new focus on courses designed by companies.<p>Traditional education is far too detached from what is required in industry, and has trouble keeping up with the pace of innovation.
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marsayover 11 years ago
Why would anyone pay for a degree, let alone online degree, is still a mystery for me. You don&#x27;t need a degree if you are really interested in computer science.
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xerophtyeover 11 years ago
wait, the admissions are closed?!?! What gives :(<p>Btw it seems they found a solution to some of the problems faced by MOOCs. Lower the drop-out rate by introducing an entry barrier. And also restict the class size to reach a manageable amount for actual class-like experience. Also, offer an ACTUAL degree, thus providing incentive to students to carry on with the program.
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sarojtover 11 years ago
This is the beginning of a revolution for affordable,accessible education.
Eleutheriaover 11 years ago
Make it free and you&#x27;ll have a million applicants.<p>That&#x27;s disruptive.