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Bill Gates: I assume my phone's not being tapped

57 pointsby prateekjover 11 years ago

15 comments

rl3over 11 years ago
I refuse to believe he could be that naive, especially considering the amount of wealth and power he has.<p>In a recent interview with Wired, when asked about NSA activities and data privacy in general:<p><i>Gates: &quot; ... There are legitimate reasons for the government to watch what’s going on, particularly with nuclear and biological weapons. So it’d be nice if there was a way that some part of the government that we really trusted was looking at that information. Right now, people are going, “Oh my gosh!” and you wonder—did they not think anything was going on? But it’s probably good there is now an explicit conversation.&quot;</i> [1]<p>He also has, or at the very least had, a Top Secret security clearance. [2]<p>While the purpose is debatable, one of the most likely reasons was so he could receive State Department briefings prior to meeting with foreign leaders and businessmen. A lot of that information would likely have come from NSA intercepts.<p>Another purpose could have been to facilitate Microsoft&#x27;s cooperation with the NSA on software backdoors, cryptographic or otherwise.<p>[1] <a href="http://www.wired.com/business/2013/11/bill-gates-bill-clinton-wired/all/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;2013&#x2F;11&#x2F;bill-gates-bill-clinto...</a><p>[2] <a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/bill_gates_has_top_secret_clearance/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.outsidethebeltway.com&#x2F;bill_gates_has_top_secret_c...</a>
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TrainedMonkeyover 11 years ago
This reminded me about quote from &quot;Player of Games&quot; a Culture novel by Ian Banks.<p>Said by a character with diplomatic immunity after a particularly interesting anti government statement: &quot;We pretend they do not listen to us and they pretend they do not hear anything.&quot;
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at-fates-handsover 11 years ago
I can&#x27;t tell whether to believe him or not. As someone with pretty deep technological experience, his naivety to such matters is a bit off putting to say the least.
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nlpover 11 years ago
Nobody seems to be talking about SMTP...<p>SMTP is the protocol that is used for basically all email, and it does not provide encryption. There are versions of the protocol that DO, however they cannot be used in isolation. Emails hop from source to destination via a bunch of SMTP relay servers, and since nearly all SMTP servers support the legacy protocol and do not support key exchange, encrypted SMTP traffic will bounce.<p>When you use gmail, your connection to Google is secure. But if the recipient of your message is not @gmail.com, the message leaves Google&#x27;s servers in plain text over SMTP. If the recipient is @gmail.com, the message stays inside the Google network.<p>The point is, all of our emails traverse the internet in plain text unless we use custom solutions (eg. PGP at both endpoints) or send emails within a network (eg. Gmail to Gmail).
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sxdtxdrttdxover 11 years ago
<p><pre><code> Bill Gates: I assume my phone&#x27;s not being tapped ...but choose to modify my behavior anyway, of course! Oh, and buy more Microsoft stock, please! </code></pre> Meanwhile...<p>Microsoft Offers Secure Windows … But Only to the Government<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/04/air-force-windows/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;threatlevel&#x2F;2009&#x2F;04&#x2F;air-force-windows&#x2F;</a><p><a href="http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2009/04/balmer_air_force.jpg" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;images_blogs&#x2F;threatlevel&#x2F;2009&#x2F;04&#x2F;balmer...</a>
mseepgoodover 11 years ago
That&#x27;s what Merkel said as well in a public TV interview.
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zebraover 11 years ago
He is working with billions - so it is very precious information where he is going to invest or withdraw.
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lifeisstillgoodover 11 years ago
Well depending on your definition it probably is not tapped - merely the metadata collected. And that is I suspect Gates&#x27; point - we have entered a world where the genie will not go back in the bottle, and there is only one solution - carriers to offer protection. And that&#x27;s an expensive solution.
greenlakejakeover 11 years ago
If Bill Gates really thinks his phone is not being tapped I have a bridge to sell him.
forgotAgainover 11 years ago
Since he has a vested interest in the public maintaining faith in high tech companies, his response is neither surprising nor objective.<p>Even the gods can be self serving.
andorover 11 years ago
He&#x27;s probably just covering his ass. I guess he learned some operational security since his mails were used as evidence in the anti-trust trial.
ivancaover 11 years ago
The main owner of the american company creator of the most used operated system in desktops around the world (in all countries, enemies and allies of the USA government) may not be the most trustable source in this matter. Call it &quot;ad hominem&quot; but let&#x27;s not pretend it hasn&#x27;t been this way when money and government are involved.
dil8over 11 years ago
First he is the authority on speaking about poverty and now he is the authority on speaking about privacy. Oh the irony...
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sdegutisover 11 years ago
I figured he was just talking figuratively, speaking for the Everyman.
obastaniover 11 years ago
Am I the only one who interpreted him as saying he <i>ought</i> to be able to assume that his phone calls&#x2F;emails are private? He clarifies:<p>&quot;So there is a basic sense that whoever is providing that technology has to make sure it&#x27;s secure.&quot;<p>I think he&#x27;s just saying it&#x27;s the job of the mail service to provide security, not something the end user should need to worry about.