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Ask HN: Readability loves readers, but at what cost to authors?

10 pointsby CalmQuietalmost 16 years ago
Readability (http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/) offers a great enhancement to my experience of web-based info. And (even at v. 0.4) to <i>printability</i> of pages (esp. of blogs and blog systems whose print systems are often ugly and wasteful of ink and paper).<p>However, when I want to <i>print</i> and <i>share</i> with someone else there is the following drawback: the author, original web site, etc. are almost always <i>not</i> printed.<p>Does this worry you? as authors? as readers?<p>As it is, I have to hand-write the URL and author on a printed copy.<p>Maybe this is just an issue for <i>Readability</i> to fix in future versions. But <i>another</i> issue is: do not the designers of blogs and sites need to be more aware of services like Readability and take sensible steps (like including date, author, original url, etc) to be sure ownership is displayed in the <i>body</i> of their articles/posts? I sure would if i were designing blog for myself.<p>Surely Readability is just the first of what will likely be scraping/reformatting apps, especially when annoying bandwidth-sucking, ink-draining ads dominate so heavily the <i>printed</i> as well as <i>screen</i> versions of sites. Your ideas?

5 comments

ExJournalistalmost 16 years ago
As a "recovering journalist" who constantly recommends Readability to friends, the lack of authorship attribution concerns me greatly.<p>I don't write Javascript, so I can't provide myself with such a service, but as annoying (heavy bandwidth/printwidth) as many posts are, I think the average web-browsing citizen is soon going to catch on to the joy of reading <i>clean</i> copy.<p>Here's my vote for Readability (or some other enterprising JS coder) to offer this service <i>along with</i> attribution of authorship and original URL. —just my 2¢
Rickasaurusalmost 16 years ago
If authors don't want their content to be reformatted they should present it in either a locked down format (ex. PDF) or provide it in a way which is reasonably well formatted.<p>One of the biggest problems with mobile web browsing is that there are so many fixed format sites which have content for which it is not necessary. I would love if I could just take a badly formatted site, pass it through this on my iPhone and actually have something I can read without scrolling around all over the place.
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HoneyAndSiliconalmost 16 years ago
I've had some of the same reactions.<p>Remember that Readability is only at version 0.4 - and i'm not sure that it even has a plan to montetize (sorry, haven't read their site details). Have you considered bringing this suggestion to <i>their</i> attention?
bapalmost 16 years ago
Readability is awesome and I would love to see some version of it for my iphone. I concur that if apps like this become ubiquitous then the 'industry' (whatever that is) will shift toward inline text inclusion of things like credentials as well as advertisement.
Shakescodealmost 16 years ago
Readability is a (somewhat experimental?) service offering from Arc90, which self-describes as:<p>"Founded in 2004 in Brooklyn, arc90 was created with the goal of designing and building captivating and forward-thinking experiences on the Web. Our strategists partner with you to identify opportunities and help execute on them at all stages including design, architecture and development."<p>They've got a <i>bunch</i> of interesting projects underway so they may sort of have "a full plate" - but it looks to me like they use Readability as a way to gain visibility and positive press, so hopefully they'll be resourceful enough to take this beyond v .4