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China and "our standard of living"

102 pointsby jp_scalmost 16 years ago

11 comments

mistermannalmost 16 years ago
Wow, spot on! Likely not news to anyone here, but I really wonder how many people out there are smart enough to realize how amazingly cheap the stuff we buy is, and really think of where it comes from.
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sofalalmost 16 years ago
This applies to the food industry as well, like how we get our meat. We'd be better off if the things we buy were responsibly produced and priced. It's hard to know what we can do about it besides voting with our dollars and educating others.
ErrantXalmost 16 years ago
There is no message in this post, no "good points" (to a point). Clearly the writer has no experience of Chinese culture or has ever really been there (I know its satire - but the point is to make a point, no?).<p>Considering cultures in Asia/Africa (possibly even South America) from a Western perspective will always lead you to draw conclusions such as "slave labour" and "abuse".<p>Now, I'm not going to deny for a moment that such things do go on - but not in quite the same way and on the scale certain people wish to imagine.<p>Anecdote from my university course: our dept. was open 24/7 (even on Sundays if you had a special pass). I would regularly walk past the lobby at 1am and see the Chinese continget (there were many on my course) still working there. We tried to get some to come to a pub once and they didnt really get the whole relaxing/chilling out thing.<p>It was an interesting insight into the culture - and when I was lucky enough to travel in some of the less well known areas of Asia you see it in even more detail. Greater thabn 40hr weeks are not borne out of the manufacturers getting more out of the labour. It is borne out the culture (and, yes, they took advantage of it).
myth_drannonalmost 16 years ago
I'm posting two very interesting blog posts about China factories and its "bio-robots" but it's in Russian :( May be try google translate... Mices and headphones: <a href="http://sergeydolya.livejournal.com/55293.html" rel="nofollow">http://sergeydolya.livejournal.com/55293.html</a> Sony and Panasonic factories: <a href="http://sergeydolya.livejournal.com/55924.html" rel="nofollow">http://sergeydolya.livejournal.com/55924.html</a>
InkweaverReviewalmost 16 years ago
Awesome!<p>Fake Steve just gets better and better. ;)
onreact-comalmost 16 years ago
Soon enough when there is no manufacturing left elsewhere China will capitalize on their monopoly and the rest of the world will have to work 7 days 80h+ shifts to make a living.
Ardit20almost 16 years ago
Of course we do not care man. It is not like the Chinese gave us the wealth. We invented stuff, we traded with other countries and shared our knowledge, they decided to close up, to live in some island, and now that they are opening up they will have to start at the bottom no.<p>You may ask whether the birth lottery is any fare and I do not know about that one really, it is, it goes really deep and it effects everyone, but being a practicalist, although this one event may be unfortunate, until the Chinese government opens up fully and adopts our values, there is not much we can do really. So stop crying and start working on making those super cool macs cheaper :)
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c0nsiliencealmost 16 years ago
While the story had some decent points to it, the ending was a really horrible cop out and cowardly way to accuse the young man of stealing an iPhone. Even if it is true.
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jpwagneralmost 16 years ago
I really hope one day we learn that FSJ = SJ.
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wspraguealmost 16 years ago
That is one of the best posts I have ever read.
mrshoealmost 16 years ago
This exposes the truism that there is always a standard of living continuum in society. In a different era there were Kings and Lords and Peasants. Now we have Europeans and Americans and Chinese and Indians.<p>If globalization can succeed at improving the standard of living for those at the bottom of the continuum, it will have to be at the expense of those at the top. It's a zero sum game.
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