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Why The Greatest Online Tool, Email, Still Needs Disruption

24 pointsby mathoucover 11 years ago

12 comments

bluetideproover 11 years ago
Solid article. I do hope to see more people enter the client side of the Email world because personally, I think that is what is slacking. There needs to be better Email clients that are more divorce than JUST supporting Gmail or JUST being on your mobile device. I don&#x27;t think that Email, in general, is broken. I would rather just see better clients out there to make it more usable. More usable by handling attachments better, or sorting, etc. I still have yet to find a good Email client that works well with various Email account types (<i>Gmail, Exchange, etc.</i>) on different device types (<i>Desktop or Mobile</i>). Airmail [1] is probably the closest, but even that has tons of flaws. My example, if you are using a fork (<i>Email client</i>) to eat cereal, you don&#x27;t blame cereal (<i>Email</i>) for not working correctly.<p>[1] <a href="http://airmailapp.com/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;airmailapp.com&#x2F;</a>
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spindritfover 11 years ago
As if a sticky, following you around top bar wasn&#x27;t enough, they also have a bottom bar? It&#x27;s like reading from a driver&#x27;s seat of a tank.<p>Where has this terrible trend originated?
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saraid216over 11 years ago
Can we stop using &quot;disruption&quot; as a stand-in for &quot;improvement&quot;?
normlomanover 11 years ago
Email&#x27;s great. Your company just sucks.<p>I&#x27;ve seen it before. The boss doesn&#x27;t want to defer responsibility. So they have everything go through their approval. Suddenly, you&#x27;re CCing the boss on every thing you send, leaving behind a train of emails to cover your ass. Soon, other bosses demand the same treatment, and before you know it, everyone&#x27;s inbox is cluttered with FWDs, and Reply-Alls, making sure nobody is left out of the loop.<p>Your company should have an email policy.<p>The one UI improvement I can see: make the reply all button hard to find, so morons don&#x27;t accidentally click it.
vonnikover 11 years ago
Anyone who&#x27;s trying to think of new ways to disrupt email should take a look at this: <a href="http://visualidiot.com/articles/mailappapp" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;visualidiot.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;mailappapp</a>
onedevover 11 years ago
Please can we retire the word &quot;disruption&quot;
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hpaavolaover 11 years ago
Email is not just IMAP and SMTP. It&#x27;s much much more (even thought technically speaking the following doesn&#x27;t have anything to do with email).<p>Pretty much the only way to invite someone to a meeting at work is to send invite over email. To figure out the place for your meeting, you use &quot;email&quot; client for that. Because you have not sent emails previously to all participants, you use &quot;email&quot; client to figure out the email address of those persons. And the recipients use their &quot;email&quot; client to update their calendar so they remember to come to the meeting.<p>So to disrupt email, you need to disrupt calendaring and address books and what ever it is called when you search your co-workers email address by their partial name or some wacky username.<p>It&#x27;s a mess and a huge beast.
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skermesover 11 years ago
I don&#x27;t get the logic that starts with &quot;Technology is moving fast but email doesn&#x27;t change&quot; and leads to the solution being papering over email&#x27;s faults with some slick UI. It&#x27;s like the whole city&#x27;s water pressure is failing and everyone is complaining about faucet design instead of that we&#x27;re using two thousand year old aqueducts. We need more out of online communication than email can give us at a really fundamental level. Suffice to say, my thoughts on this are longer than an HN comment: <a href="http://structur.al/articles/after-email/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;structur.al&#x2F;articles&#x2F;after-email&#x2F;</a>
abruzziover 11 years ago
This is like watching an old movie late at night on some VHF station (remember those?) We like the story, but the ending doesn&#x27;t change.
cissouover 11 years ago
Good points, though the article doesn&#x27;t talk about attachments, which are a terrible pain... It&#x27;s seeing quite a lot of disruption, with the likes of We Transfer or infinit.io, but now that Google Drive covers this for me I haven&#x27;t used those services as much.
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donpdonpover 11 years ago
An exciting email client project is in development at <a href="http://mailpile.is/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;mailpile.is&#x2F;</a> - a self hosted open-source gmail work-alike. (live demo on the site)
pbreitover 11 years ago
I&#x27;d like to see the UI be more IM-like.<p>Edit: Guess I can try to explain. Email messages have become much shorter and back-and-forths are frequent (and not always best solved with a call). IM has almost no spam so the idea would be to strike a better balance between only hearing from people you know against the need for &quot;cold emailing&quot;. Google&#x27;s new tabs sort of address this. IM still suffers from fragmentation so there&#x27;d be a benefit from using the universal email protocols (so long as unwanted messages could be contained).