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Introducing Mozilla Firefox Accounts

173 pointsby ibsathishover 11 years ago

18 comments

mcpherrinmover 11 years ago
I'm really disappointed this doesn't authenticate against Persona. Supporting Persona in Firefox seems to be pretty slow coming, and this seems like a big blow against having that smoothly integrating it.
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redditivistover 11 years ago
That was a lot of text to say:<p>&quot;Today, we’re introducing Firefox Accounts as a safe and easy way for you to create an account. With Firefox Account can integrate services, like Firefox Sync.<p>Firefox Sync enables syncing of passwords, bookmarks, history, and open tabs across devices, now even easier to setup the service and add multiple devices&quot;
xiaqover 11 years ago
&gt; Last year, we created a new team at Mozilla to explore one specific area of the Web that’s grown with the explosion of mobile devices — the cloud (sometimes called Internet servers).<p>Hey Mozilla, you are too honest about the cloud thing. :)
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chippyover 11 years ago
I wouldn&#x27;t mind the server side component to this. I&#x27;d like to run my own server so that my devices can use. You&#x27;d imagine it would be available with it being Mozilla, right?<p>Edits: YES! <a href="https://github.com/mozilla/fxa-auth-server" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;mozilla&#x2F;fxa-auth-server</a>
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yeukhonover 11 years ago
I have to dig this up (sorry Brian, your talk was awesome and visually easy to get involved; kudos to identity team)<p><a href="http://people.mozilla.org/~bwarner/warner-rwc2014/#/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;people.mozilla.org&#x2F;~bwarner&#x2F;warner-rwc2014&#x2F;#&#x2F;</a>
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jeenaover 11 years ago
Will it still work with the self hosted sync server? Or will there be a self hosted one for Firefox Accounts?<p>And I hope they will implement it on Firefox OS very soon, otherwise the whole syncing is not really that interesting.
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RexRollmanover 11 years ago
I have no problem with Mozilla doing this so long as its not pushed down my throat. I have no desire to use a cloud service.
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insertnicknameover 11 years ago
&gt;the cloud (sometimes called Internet servers)
jemeshsuover 11 years ago
I hope Firefox will implement multiple accounts within the browser, similar to Chrome multiple accounts. If it is backed by Persona, then I will be able to have web sessions based on email accounts from different providers.
PeterWhittakerover 11 years ago
<i>Mozilla is a trusted organization</i><p>Trust is such a poor and overloaded word. What is Mozilla &quot;trusted&quot; to do? That&#x27;s a very difficult question to answer.<p>Perhaps thinking in terms of expectations would be better: My expectation is that Mozilla will produce a decent browser, with occasional bumps and steps backwards in response to some <i>flavour du jour</i>, most notably in the area of <i>wouldn&#x27;t it be cools</i> that break usability. Not to mention the mobile browser considering my tablet and phone to be the &quot;same type of device&quot;, when my tablet is much closer to my computer - and it&#x27;s the computer&#x27;s UX I want everywhere, not the phone&#x27;s.<p>My expectation is that Mozilla will produce a half-decent email client that I have no real reason to use.<p>My expectation is that in doing these things Mozilla software will mostly stay out of my way, mostly work as I expect (sync the function works pretty much as expected, sync the UX is awful - I still need all manner of extension and app to get the &quot;move easily from one device to another&quot; experience I really want).<p>My expectation is that Mozilla will occasionally cook up something new, e.g., Persona, that I really don&#x27;t see a need for, and that Mozilla will be unable to articulate why that new thing is needed, cool, or anything else.<p>If Mozilla disappeared tomorrow, I would be quite upset, because FF sucks far less than every other browser - maybe that&#x27;s because I am so used to it, that I&#x27;ve made it work for me, but moving to anything else would be painful. My expectation is that they will continue to deliver excellent B+ software that is adequate to my needs and wants.<p>But why on earth would I expect that I could trust Mozilla with anything more than my sync information?<p>I trust Mozilla about as much as I trust my bank, as much as I trust Google, and, to be fair, more than I trust facebook. But again, trust is the wrong word: I expect Google to mine my information, make the occasional misstep, but to by and large attempt to keep my information safe and secure, because if they don&#x27;t, it ain&#x27;t just mine they release, it&#x27;s millions of ours, and they cannot afford that.<p>I expect my bank to mess up UX occasionally, but to do security reasonably well, and to not share my personal overmuch, because of the regulatory framework in Canada: They just cannot mess this up without serious consequence.<p>I expect facebook to mine, share, intrude, mess around, and generally do stupid things. I am never disappointed.<p>What should I expect of Mozilla Accounts?<p>Nothing. Nothing at all, because &quot;Accounts&quot; is so not what I think of when I think &quot;Mozilla&quot;. I hear &quot;Mozilla&quot; I think &quot;FireFox&quot;, I think half-decent browser, better than others, adequate email client, neither better nor worse, I think confusing cross-device UX...<p>...but do I think trust?<p>Nope.<p>And the &quot;occasional bump in response to something shiny&quot; mentioned above means I never will - at least not without major public rebranding.<p>If I am going to trust you, you need to convince me you are rock-steady reliable, and never prone to blowing with the wind.
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iSnowover 11 years ago
How is this any better or different than one of the other cloud providers? I read nothing about self-hosting this, nothing about end-to-end encryption, nothing about Persona.<p>I understand Mozilla is in a tight place with no access to iOS, little market share in mobile in general and the new walled gardens erected by Google, Apple, FB and soon Microsoft. But simply playing copy cat and catchup does not cut it.
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SkyMarshalover 11 years ago
Getting a 404 on the linux dl link for FF Auror, required to test this new feature:<p><a href="http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla-aurora/firefox-28.0a2.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ftp.mozilla.org&#x2F;pub&#x2F;mozilla.org&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;nightly&#x2F;lates...</a><p>Same with all the English (US) versions in fact. Other languages appear to work.
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BorisMelnikover 11 years ago
Love it. I abandoned the old sync. Figuring out how to set it up was more difficult than trying to learn Julia.<p>Only thing I didn&#x27;t love was the icon, but its beta so hey.<p>Link to Aurora nightly:<p>ftp:&#x2F;&#x2F;ftp.mozilla.org&#x2F;pub&#x2F;mozilla.org&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;nightly&#x2F;latest-mozilla-aurora&#x2F;
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graetzerover 11 years ago
Does anyone know if there will be a standalone client library for this API? I build an iOS browser that works with the old sync api and building a client on my own is probably a bad idea
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johnchristopherover 11 years ago
Will I be able to use a Firefox Account in Google chrome ?
fiboover 11 years ago
Finally! Doh, I need to install Aurora by now
Eleutheriaover 11 years ago
&gt; Does Firefox Accounts provide email? No.<p>Bummer. I&#x27;ve been waiting for more than ten years to get a firefox email account.<p>What&#x27;s the easiest way to have hundreds of millions of loyal followers that use your web services on a daily basis?<p>Email.<p>That&#x27;s the starting point, besides the browser.
lazyjonesover 11 years ago
How long till this is integrated with the main sponsor&#x27;s unloved child, G+?<p>I&#x27;ve got more pressing matters than yet another account with personal information and data kept in the US ...
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