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Wikipedia-size maths proof too big for humans to check

39 pointsby graehamover 11 years ago

7 comments

archgroveover 11 years ago
So, to me, proofs have two purposes. The first is to just say &quot;This theorem is true&quot;. The second is to give some insight into the problem. I have no problem with such a proof satisfying purpose one; I may not be able to check it myself, but I can build a chain of trustworthiness all the way back to a program that I <i>can</i> check myself. In such a chain, the truth of the final result is not, to me, in dispute.<p>Alas, such a proof throughly fails the second test. I can&#x27;t see how to gain insight into the problem from such a proof, beyond just it validating previous thought chains of the form &quot;If X were true, then I could deduce Y&quot;. It doesn&#x27;t reveal more about the structure of the problem, or other results in the space.<p>It&#x27;s no doubt useful (and all credit to the authors), but in terms of generating new mathematics, I&#x27;m dubious. Perhaps people more versed in this specific sub-field can tell me if I&#x27;m wrong?
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ColinWrightover 11 years ago
<a href="https://hn.algolia.com/?q=proof#!/story/past_week/0/maths%20proof" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?q=proof#!&#x2F;story&#x2F;past_week&#x2F;0&#x2F;maths%20...</a>
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saurikover 11 years ago
<a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/1y5v15/if_no_human_can_check_a_proof_of_a_theorem_does/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;math&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1y5v15&#x2F;if_no_human_can...</a>
twocowsover 11 years ago
&quot;Wikipedia-sized&quot; Is it really? They say in the article that the text of Wikipedia is a 10GB download, but that has to be compressed (and compression on plaintext, which comprises most of Wikipedia, is extremely efficient). I&#x27;m guessing (but have no proof) that their 13GB file was raw data.<p>A minor thing, but comparisons like this always drive me nuts. Just say &quot;13GB proof too big for humans to check.&quot; Then there&#x27;s no confusion.&lt;&#x2F;sillyrant&gt;
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judkover 11 years ago
&quot;Wikipedia&quot; is displacing &quot;encyclopedia&quot; and &quot;Library of Congress&quot; as a unit of measure!
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snirdover 11 years ago
&quot;The set-theoretical axioms that sustain modern mathematics are self-evident in differing degrees. One of them – indeed, the most important of them, namely Cantor&#x27;s axiom, the so-called axiom of infinity – has scarcely any claim to self-evidence at all&quot;. John P. Mayberry
adiMover 11 years ago
From the linked Wikipedia article:<p>&gt; All experiments were conducted on PCs equipped with an Intel Core i5-2500K CPU running at 3.30GHz and 16GB of RAM.<p>Why are these experiments not being conducted on a more powerful computer or a cluster?
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