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Zero-Commission Stock Trading App RobinHood Kicks Off Private Beta

43 pointsby irunbackwardsabout 11 years ago

15 comments

sheetjsabout 11 years ago
When this was on the front page last time, I pointed out that they charge fees: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6906374" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=6906374</a><p>&gt; They appear to charge TAF and other regulatory fees (<a href="https://brokerage-static.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/robinhood/legal/RHF%20Retail%20Commisions%20and%20Fees%20Schedule%20Rhfv1.2%2020131210.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brokerage-static.s3.amazonaws.com&#x2F;assets&#x2F;robinhood&#x2F;l...</a>) -- and based on the fee numbers it looks like they don&#x27;t have significant volume -- but the website shows &quot;FEES $0&quot; in the app screen. The fees may not seem to be a lot, but saying that fees are zero is a factually incorrect statement.<p>I&#x27;m glad they fixed their homepage, but the table in the article (<a href="http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/screenshot-2013-12-18-at-6-36-44-am.png?w=1360&amp;h=424" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;02&#x2F;screensh...</a>) is wrong.
mindslightabout 11 years ago
Ah, what cute example of disruption porn.<p>Hip, populist sounding name? Check.<p>New slick-designed facade on old activity? Check.<p>Marketed as if they&#x27;re eliminating middlemen? Check. (wow! no fees!)<p>Promoted as making a begrudgingly-done banality suddenly fun? Check.<p>Entirely predicated on the idea that the founders&#x27; simplicity will persevere? Check.<p>Majority of money still flowing to well connected insiders? Check. (who do you think is on the other side of trades?)<p>Eventually going to be assimilated into an incumbent and end up as a tired pig&#x27;s discarded lipstick? Check.
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conjecTechabout 11 years ago
There is an entire market around the buying and selling of so-called &quot;uninformed flow&quot;. While others do this as well, I would give a word of warning to all those potentially interested in this. If you aren&#x27;t buying something, you are the thing being sold.
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waylandsmithersabout 11 years ago
Here&#x27;s the problem:<p>|RobinHood co-founder Baiju Bhatt stresses that if you want to do deep financial research, you probably want to sit down at a desktop.<p>The heavy traders who would really benefit from zero-commission (assuming that it actually is) are on desktops in front of 4-10 monitors. Because of what it implies, I think regular people probably shouldn&#x27;t be making trades that need to be done RIGHT NOW before a desktop can be reached.<p>edit to add: Is the &quot;Share&quot; button on the bottom of the trade confirmation screen really necessary? Are rich people going to be clogging up twitter with brags like &quot;Just bought 1,000 shares of AAPL on Robinhood!&quot;
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Mikeb85about 11 years ago
Zero-commission (on some trades), but a bunch of random fees for other things, and no guarantee that it will stay fee-free. They plan on making money by providing liquidity (ie. being a market maker) and offering premium services...<p>With my current brokerage, I get online trading in 10+ worldwide markets, I can hold a variety of currencies, I get excellent execution, and there&#x27;s no fees, there&#x27;s plenty of services available including charts, real-time quotes, reports and many things that would otherwise cost me money, and all I have to pay is a flat commission fee on my trades. I really don&#x27;t see how Robinhood is superior, now or in the future... And many brokerages already offer API access, even if they don&#x27;t advertise it.
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spinlockabout 11 years ago
Just seems like a bad product. Most people trail the market because they trade too often. If you want your investments to make money, you don&#x27;t want a product like this in your pocket all the time.
kkaiserabout 11 years ago
What the zero-commission brokerages don&#x27;t charge in commission, they make up for in execution.
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pearkesabout 11 years ago
Thought I recognized the guy in the video! He loves financial services.<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9Sx34swEG0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=w9Sx34swEG0</a><p><a href="https://vimeo.com/87163777" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;87163777</a>
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rememberlennyabout 11 years ago
If you sign up, use your referral code in another browser, with a fake email address. It boosts your position by 150,000 spots.
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domdipabout 11 years ago
Didn&#x27;t Zecco already prove this wasn&#x27;t a sustainable business model?
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gtsuiabout 11 years ago
&quot;Zero commission&quot; does not actually mean zero commission. The commission just ends up being baked in to the prices they show you. e.g. If the market (institutional) bid&#x2F;offer for MSFT were 39&#x2F;41, they would show customers prices of 38&#x2F;42. For an order of $1000, that would mean they charge you $25 of implicit commission on the trade. It just doesn&#x27;t show up on your bill. Get real. Their only innovation is hiding fees from their customers, not reducing them.
navsabout 11 years ago
If I&#x27;m in New Zealand I&#x27;m guessing this isn&#x27;t for me?<p><a href="https://brokerage-static.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/robinhood/legal/RHF%20Jurisdictions.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brokerage-static.s3.amazonaws.com&#x2F;assets&#x2F;robinhood&#x2F;l...</a>
ilbeabout 11 years ago
I hate to be negative, but this is designed perfectly for gamblers. Invest in index funds.
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joncooperabout 11 years ago
Love this - and the team seems excellent.<p>I&#x27;d view the competition as Interactive Brokers, not E*TRADE or Fidelity.<p>If I didn&#x27;t love my job so much I&#x27;d be schwangling my way in to try and get in the door there.
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kirbykabout 11 years ago
I still don&#x27;t have access.