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New machine turns water into wine in three days

33 pointsby prhtabout 11 years ago

21 comments

deutroniumabout 11 years ago
$500 seems rather excessive to me for something that is mainly presumably a peltier, H-Bridge and MCU along with a bluetooth chip.<p>I currently make beer, but if I was going to make wine, I&#x27;d instead look at sourcing good quality grapes, and just fermenting reasonably cool in a fridge rigged up to a PID.<p>On the topic of artificially aging wine this article is rather fascinating <a href="http://people.math.aau.dk/~cornean/index.html/ACwine.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;people.math.aau.dk&#x2F;~cornean&#x2F;index.html&#x2F;ACwine.pdf</a> where they use HV AC to apparently decrease the harshness of un-aged wine. Additionally if you did want to age wine you can get small oak barrels from ebay relatively cheaply.
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nlhabout 11 years ago
On a marketing note: I get why they&#x27;ve chosen this name, but I think it&#x27;s a bad idea. It raised all of my snake oil red flags initially.<p>I checked out the page and it does seem like a real project, and could be pretty cool. But I think attaching a hyperbolic &quot;miracle&quot; name to an otherwise interesting home winemaking device hurts their credibility.
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bananasabout 11 years ago
I used to use old coke bottles, baby bottle sterilising tablets, cheap apple juice, bread yeast, granulated sugar, an electric blanket and a condom to brew cider when I was a kid.<p>Worked like a dream, until I got caught.<p>Didn&#x27;t cost $500 either and took only a couple of days more...
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saalweachterabout 11 years ago
&quot;The fermentation chamber in the machine turns water, grape concentrate, yeast and a finishing powder into wine.&quot;
simiasabout 11 years ago
&gt; The &#x27;Miracle Machine&#x27; takes only three days and just a couple of dollars to make wine that would normally cost at least USD 20, its makers claim.<p>That sounds completely preposterous to me, unless wine is much more expensive in the US than it is here in France. Assuming that we are talking about the price of a single bottle of wine (which seems about right judging by the size of the device) 20$ would get you very high end wine. You can get good wine for a quarter of this price easily.<p>Brewing stuff at home is fun but this seems closer to kool aid than oenology. I&#x27;m not sure you would learn a great deal about wine making by using it. I&#x27;m not sure I see the appeal, unless as they seem to boast the wine ends up very good and much cheaper than simply buying it in a store.
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bunderbunderabout 11 years ago
I can&#x27;t help but remember the story of the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Company of Milwaukee, Wisconsin.<p>During their heyday, they made one of America&#x27;s most popular beers. At the time there was a lot of interest in developing a faster fermentation process in an effort to make beer less expensive to produce. Schlitz got caught up in this - competition was fierce at the time - and ended up deciding to switch over to a continuous fermentation process and also started using extracts instead of more expensive traditional ingredients.<p>End result? The company was sunk within a decade. The new beer wasn&#x27;t the same, and customers didn&#x27;t like it. The flavor just wasn&#x27;t there. That&#x27;s really saying something when you&#x27;re talking about an American-style adjunct lager, which isn&#x27;t exactly the world&#x27;s most full-flavored beer in the first place.<p>Which isn&#x27;t to say that it&#x27;s futile to try and come up with new processes for making fermented beverages. Companies like Miller and Anheuser-Busch have managed to figure out how to produce consistent, clean-tasting pale lagers in only a week or two where historically brewers would need to allow months of time for fermentation and cold conditioning. But they developed these processes incrementally. Attempts at radical, all-at-once re-envisioning of the processes for beer &amp; winemaking seem to have a historical tendency to end up being radical failures.
h4plessabout 11 years ago
I feel that using the term &quot;wine&quot; is misleading considering it is not made from fermented grapes. Not to mention that wine is one of those things that has a touchy-feely side and this system has none of the romance that many would argue helps define a good wine.<p>You can also take powders, process them and make yourself some nice cubic zirconia that looks a lot like diamond, but that doesn&#x27;t change the fact that a diamond is a diamond and that shit you just made is not a diamond.
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jamesbrownuhhabout 11 years ago
&quot;New machine turns ingredients of wine into wine.&quot;<p>Film at eleven.
da_nabout 11 years ago
Cool tech if it actually delivers on the promise, but I&#x27;m going to need more than just one of the founders word that the wine it produces is indistinguishable from that which costs $20 per bottle. The name they have chosen doesn&#x27;t help, a miracle machine should do something like cure cancer, not get people drunk. Even something like &#x27;Wine-o-matic 4000&#x27; would have gone down better with me.
troymcabout 11 years ago
Home wine-making kits have been around since forever. Example sites:<p><a href="http://www.homewinemaking.co.uk/wine_kits.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.homewinemaking.co.uk&#x2F;wine_kits.html</a><p><a href="http://www.homebrewusa.com/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.homebrewusa.com&#x2F;</a><p>I guess the main innovation is the sensors and the microcontroller? Is that new? It seems unlikely, but I&#x27;m not sure.
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stefan_kendall3about 11 years ago
If you find any cost savings in this, I&#x27;m guessing you&#x27;re an alcoholic and should probably avoid a make-it-at-home device.
dhruvmittalabout 11 years ago
I got excited because the title led me to think the machine somehow went directly from water to wine with no additional ingredients.
Jugurthaabout 11 years ago
Where&#x27;s the rest ? I mean the part containing the technical stuff, not the one saying &quot;Miracle Machine&quot;.
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NAFV_Pabout 11 years ago
A friend of mine used to brew beer, a lot of the recipe books were written by this guy:<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Line" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dave_Line</a><p>I particularly remember a 7.3%ABV stout with strong overtones of &quot;candied orange peel&quot; among other things.
anovikovabout 11 years ago
I bet most of wine you can buy in Russia is made with a machine like that :facepalm:
neilnojabout 11 years ago
Do you really need a machine to add yeast to grape juice and seal it up to ferment and make wine? I remember a kid doing this in my high school science class.
callesggabout 11 years ago
Impossible, water does not contain the type off chemical elements needed to make wine.
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graycatabout 11 years ago
Heck, I have a machine, quite inexpensive that will turn nothing into some of the world&#x27;s best wine instantly! Don&#x27;t have to add water, grape concentrate, etc. Instead, starting with a clean machine, just add some really good wine!!!!!
malkiaabout 11 years ago
There is a 2000+ year old patent on that.
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achudarsabout 11 years ago
Let&#x27;s call it Jesus Machine
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yawzabout 11 years ago
Brilliant! So, you put in ingredients instead of pixie dust.