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Out of 15M brackets, none remains to win Warren Buffet's $1B March Madness bet

94 pointsby callmevladabout 11 years ago
Original title: Out of 15M brackets, only 1 remains to win Warren Buffet&#x27;s $1B March Madness bet<p>http:&#x2F;&#x2F;sports.yahoo.com&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;ncaab-the-dagger&#x2F;there-are-no-longer-any-perfect-brackets-left-in-the-billion-dollar-bracket-challenge-003853949.html

21 comments

thrushabout 11 years ago
There are currently still 3 perfect brackets on ESPN.<p><pre><code> 1. http:&#x2F;&#x2F;games.espn.go.com&#x2F;tournament-challenge-bracket&#x2F;2014&#x2F;en&#x2F;entry?entryID=576318 1. http:&#x2F;&#x2F;games.espn.go.com&#x2F;tournament-challenge-bracket&#x2F;2014&#x2F;en&#x2F;entry?entryID=4155737 1. http:&#x2F;&#x2F;games.espn.go.com&#x2F;tournament-challenge-bracket&#x2F;2014&#x2F;en&#x2F;entry?entryID=10928050 </code></pre> <a href="http://games.espn.go.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2014/en/leaderboard" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;games.espn.go.com&#x2F;tournament-challenge-bracket&#x2F;2014&#x2F;e...</a>
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jerfabout 11 years ago
From a game design standpoint, that was one problem with this design. Since half the tournament occurs in the first round (well, not counting the wildcard round), there&#x27;s no drama; everyone gets shot down immediately. In the movie version of this, it&#x27;ll come down to at <i>least</i> the Final Four before our hero gets knocked out, no matter how implausible the odds of making it that far are.
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bluedevil2kabout 11 years ago
A friend and I today discussed if you had a perfect bracket after the great 8 round, going into the Final 4, would you, and for how much, sell a stake in your bracket to hedge your money?<p>The numbers, though it&#x27;s a &quot;billion $&quot; bracket, that&#x27;s actually $25M over 40 years, or an optional $300M single payout. In the US, you could expect about 55% of that after taxes, so $165M. There are 3 games left at the Final 4 game.
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callmevladabout 11 years ago
Some background: Warren Buffett Offers $1 Billion For Perfect March Madness Bracket<p><a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/01/21/warren-buffett-offers-1-billion-for-perfect-march-madness-bracket/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;kellyphillipserb&#x2F;2014&#x2F;01&#x2F;21&#x2F;warr...</a>
Alex_MJabout 11 years ago
From a &quot;get people to play with numbers&quot; perspective, this was actually a pretty cool challenge on Warren Buffet&#x27;s part. Most people are going to spray-and-pray (my facebook feed is full of facetious &quot;shit, there goes my billion dollars&quot;) but I would be surprised if there weren&#x27;t a large number of people who put more effort than they otherwise would have into trying to figure out statistical models for who wins basketball games.
cgtyoderabout 11 years ago
There is still one bracket left as of 11:27p EDT. <a href="https://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/quickenloansbracket/2030973" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com&#x2F;quickenloansbrack...</a>
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creadeabout 11 years ago
It&#x27;s not in the article but my guess would be that none of Warren Buffet&#x27;s money was ever actually on the line. The last time Pepsi had a contest for $1 Billion, they bought insurance against someone meeting the conditions to win the prize. Who&#x27;d they buy that insurance from? Berkshire Hathaway.<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepsi_Billion_Dollar_Sweepstakes#Insurance" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Pepsi_Billion_Dollar_Sweepstake...</a>
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PhantomGremlinabout 11 years ago
Assuming you could pick game winners with 80% probability, your odds of selecting a perfect 63 game bracket are less than 1 in a million. I.e.<p><pre><code> &gt;&gt;&gt; .8 ** 63 7.846377169233378e-07 </code></pre> Even at 90%, your odds are little better than 1 in a thousand:<p><pre><code> &gt;&gt;&gt; .9 ** 63 0.0013100205086376223 </code></pre> Needless to say, I didn&#x27;t even bother entering.
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joeblauabout 11 years ago
LOL, this is hilarious. I was talking to my Girlfriend and all of my friends and I told them: You have a better probability, after being born, of becoming a billionaire just because you&#x27;re alive versus you wining Warren Buffet&#x27;s money. Then they countered, with: But if we play, we at least have some chance. I just laughed and got back to programming.
selectoutabout 11 years ago
It&#x27;s actually none now. They sent out an email and push notification.
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6thSigmaabout 11 years ago
Buffet said he calculated what he thought the odds were of a perfect bracket and took a premium on top of that. I wonder what return he got on his $1B bet.
denniszabout 11 years ago
There&#x27;s still one perfect bracket after BOTH days (though not in the Buffet challenge): <a href="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2001973-this-is-the-only-perfect-ncaa-tournament-bracket-left?utm_source=facebook.com&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=programming-national" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bleacherreport.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2001973-this-is-the-only-...</a>
magikbumabout 11 years ago
Actually down to just 1 at the time of 10 PM EST on Friday
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runevaultabout 11 years ago
Upsets are common. However so many of them appeared I&#x27;m completely unsurprised the money is already safe. Watching brackets in my company pool crumble left and right had been crazy.<p>With weighted results, I wonder what the odds of this set of outcomes happening even was (note, some of the &quot;upsets&quot; by seed weren&#x27;t really, like the CU vs Pitt game where Pitt ran them over).
xeferabout 11 years ago
What am I missing...? The top bracket is still perfect, currently 30&#x2F;30 and their pick is leading in the other two games
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waylandsmithersabout 11 years ago
They should have put more emphasis on the top 20 non-perfects winning 100k. That&#x27;s still pretty good! But I suppose the goal was harvesting information for quicken loans so mission accomplished.
thejoshabout 11 years ago
So I have absolutely no idea how this works, but I&#x27;ve seen it around a lot.<p>So I assume that you can enter once, how many unique entries would there need to be to actually get a combination that would win?
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edabout 11 years ago
Well, duh. At 63 games this has an expected value of $1e-10.<p><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=1000000000%2F2%5E63" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;search?q=1000000000%2F2%5E63</a>
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cheeyoonleeabout 11 years ago
We have a better chance winning the Mega Millions jackpot
jpeg_heroabout 11 years ago
This shows you the power of statistics
dba7dbaabout 11 years ago
This stunt actually makes me angry. Not a good PR move imo.<p>&quot;I have enough money that I can risk giving up a billion $. And I may just give it to you if you can beat the odds that&#x27;s harder than getting hit by lighting multiples times in 1 year.&quot;<p>How about offering pot of 100 million to top (aka sweep) 16 instead...<p>But never mind, it&#x27;s their money...
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