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Show HN: Crowdsourced salary prediction

36 pointsby cagriaksayabout 11 years ago

23 comments

WoodenChairabout 11 years ago
You need to offer a way for me to turn off my account. I logged in just to try it, found out it&#x27;s not what I thought it was and am not that interested, and now want my account deleted and your access to my LinkedIn revoked.<p>Showing some peoples&#x27; profiles anonymously is not very anonymous at all. If you&#x27;re the owner of a one man company then not showing your name is meaningless. You need to anonymize the actual companies too.<p>Don&#x27;t get me wrong the site looks nice and you have done good work. But I want out, and you should offer a way out on day one.
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bctabout 11 years ago
It would be nice to see a sample so that I know what I&#x27;m getting into before I give you access to my LinkedIn.
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geocarabout 11 years ago
It&#x27;s a bit difficult to tell what the experience will be before you jump in, and it&#x27;s not very fun when you do. Screenshots of the experience would help a lot.<p>Also: After seeing it, it&#x27;s not going to work very well for HMF-level people since most people don&#x27;t know what an HMF <i>looks like</i>.<p>It might be better to randomly swap extracted features them around with other people so that you can tell how you&#x27;re measuring each feature. You might find some features deserve drastically higher weights to correct for people&#x27;s subjective &quot;feelings&quot; about how much someone should make.<p>I like that it tells me how other people guess (after I submit my own guess), but it only tells me the mean (and it says average). When it had collected guesses for my salary, I watched for a few guesses to pile in and it seems to be taking the mean of them. I don&#x27;t think this is a good idea, for example someone guessing <i>very</i> low repeatedly will drag down everyone&#x27;s score.<p>It might be useful to collect &quot;what do I think this person makes&quot; separately from &quot;what do I think this person could be making&quot;.
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liopleurodonabout 11 years ago
How does SalaryFairy know what&#x27;s correct? Just in general?<p>Someone with a statistics background might have a better idea, but I&#x27;m thinking might help to allow users to, in their profile (and have it be optional), enter their salary.<p>That way, you&#x27;ll not only be able to show people what other people think they should be making, but you might be able to (once a certain threshold is met) show what people with similar experiences in a certain region <i>are</i> making. And you&#x27;d be able to see how close the guesses are to the real thing and maybe figure out a margin of error.<p>It might also be nice to allow people to put in descriptions of what they did at their workplaces. Someone doing embedded development might get a significantly higher salary than someone doing .NET, even if they have a similar # of years of experience.
cannamabout 11 years ago
Interesting, but I found it incredibly hard to come up with sensible estimates for profiles.<p>So much depends on their location -- do I assume they&#x27;ll be staying where they are and try to estimate what salaries there should be like, or estimate based on my own location? -- and the sort of places they might like to work. If you&#x27;re currently in a university or a small business you might be paid less than at a bank for the same work, but you might be choosing to work there for other reasons, so it&#x27;s not that useful to point out that another employer would pay more.<p>I found my estimates were generally much lower than the averages from other users, perhaps because I currently work in a university myself.<p>Edit: and indeed, it turns out that the estimates I&#x27;m seeing for my own profile are about double my actual pay. Which isn&#x27;t surprising, because that&#x27;s about what I might expect in the private sector in the same location.
eranationabout 11 years ago
So far the prediction average of 2 people is less than half of what I currently make (and less than half for the average salary for my role in that city)<p>You need a LOT of people to make this work... so far it seems like a nice idea but not sure it can work relying only 100% on &quot;crowd-smarts&quot;
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jayhuangabout 11 years ago
This is pretty cool, but I do have one question:<p>How do you account for the fact that many of your users may not be familiar with the salary ranges in a specific area?<p>I understand the goal is to get a large amount of estimates for each user, to compensate for that, but my guess is that locations where larger amounts of users are located would have far better estimates. I just saw a couple of Vancouver (where I live) people, in positions I have trained and hired people in, but the estimated salary seems to be quite off considering that Vancouver salaries are noticeably lower than San Fran in reality.<p>Edit: It seems most of the profiles for me are Vancouver&#x2F;Toronto&#x2F;Ottawa, so I&#x27;m guessing that&#x27;s their way of getting locals to estimate salaries.
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4lunabout 11 years ago
It&#x27;d be cool if you also showed the currency converted for where the person is located, maybe in brackets next to the dollar amount. I&#x27;m in the UK and I&#x27;m getting asked to predict in dollars the salary for someone else who is also in the UK.
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sk24iamabout 11 years ago
I like the concept. Interesting how it&#x27;s a game and provides salary analytics at the same time. I just added my profile but I will check again after a few people have predicted my salary to see the results.<p>I was bouncing around a few ideas that involved using the Linkedin API a few months ago. I have a few questions about Salary Fairy that may help me with my research...<p>Does Salary Fairy download a user&#x27;s profile to the database? If so, I thought Linkedin required the user to grant permission to store the data in addition to just obtaining access when logging in. Is this still the case?<p>What technology stack are you using?<p>What type of hosting?
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cagriaksayabout 11 years ago
Our site provides personalized salary predictions with wisdom of the crowds. We recently built a scoring feature where you get higher scores for good salary predictions. We would like to get your feedback.
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ritchieaabout 11 years ago
Salary is a weird number. For instance giving a startup founder who is an ex-Google engineer a prediction is awkward because she could maybe fetch a mid six figure salary if she wanted but she is probably is paying herself enough to get by or even nothing depending on the stage of a startup.<p>It&#x27;s unclear whether I should be answering what salary does this person&#x27;s skills merit? Or what salary do I think they are earning today?<p>I also wish I could refresh and&#x2F;or edit my profile on salaryfairy.
Jamie452about 11 years ago
It would be cool if you got recruiters on board, so they can see the crowd estimated salary of an employee - so they can see what people who actually know about technology think someone is worth.<p>I don&#x27;t really like recruiters, in my experience they tell you you&#x27;re aiming too high, but don&#x27;t know anything about the technologies.<p>So my feedback is to try and aim to get recruiters and employers to use this to find new candidates.
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krukabout 11 years ago
It would be really interesting if profiles were not filtered by country but predictions were grouped by it. If I wanted to move abroad I could base my salary expectations on it.<p>This would also give more value to people from outside of the U.S. (there is only one other person from Singapore registered, so as it is I won&#x27;t get many predictions).
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pdqabout 11 years ago
How is this different than Glassdoor.com?
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quarterwaveabout 11 years ago
Apart from salary, is any indication provided of the volume of matching jobs&#x2F;locations?
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patorjkabout 11 years ago
It might be useful to show your estimated average salary, and your estimated average salary from people in your area. Most people probably don&#x27;t have a good idea of what the going rates are outside of their geographic location.
j-macabout 11 years ago
They should offer A&#x2F;B testing on your profile to maximize you estimated salary.
koseiabout 11 years ago
I think the best way for this to work is for you to pair it with a more professional algorithm (e.g. Payscale, Salary.com). I am not sure I would ever trust what a bunch of random unqualified people say my salary should be.
Demenoabout 11 years ago
Some quick UI ideas <a href="http://i.imgur.com/7PDTIt9.jpg" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;7PDTIt9.jpg</a><p>Maybe also keep the scroller for when you absolutely have to have a higher resolution...
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guess_my_salaryabout 11 years ago
Why don&#x27;t you take a guess at mine? <a href="http://salaryfairy.com/fairy/guess/420" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;salaryfairy.com&#x2F;fairy&#x2F;guess&#x2F;420</a>
Bahamutabout 11 years ago
This is a very interesting idea - so far with 7 predictions, the predicted # is more than $30k than what I currently make.<p>Goes to show how underpaid people can be.
gjm11about 11 years ago
I find it extraordinary how many people are willing to give full access to their LinkedIn account and get so little in exchange.
brickmortabout 11 years ago
right off the bat, I&#x27;m not so comfortable about giving the site access to my LinkedIn account. No promise that it wont spam my account somehow or post things to my Linkedin feed.
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