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Why coders avoid salespeople

8 pointsby nishankkhannaabout 11 years ago

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dylzabout 11 years ago
If I get a call or they want to do it over a call, I refuse and do not use the product -- period.<p>When dealing with anyone in sales, I need EVERYTHING fully documented, on paper, preferably crypto-signed. Because every sales person lies.<p>Some dumb anecdotes:<p>I use Gandi.net - they have never called me once, everything just works, I&#x27;ve never had to use support, panel has everything self-service. Even supports DNSSEC.<p>Internet.bs - they have never called me once, everything just works, I&#x27;ve never had to use support, panel has everything self-service.<p>Godaddy called me 4 times upon registration to advertise shitty, worthless products like &quot;email hosting&quot;. Not a single salesperson I ran into knew ANYTHING whatsoever about the product.<p>Register.com refuses to give up EPP code without a minimum 1 hour sales pitch by phone. They can go shove their phone up their asshole. The &quot;give me EPP code&quot; link in their panel just says &quot;we will consider your request and maybe give you it in a few days, after you&#x27;ve gotten a call from Retentions&quot; -- &quot;You recently requested an auth code to transfer ... Your request has been processed and at this time it has been declined&quot;<p>Network Solutions: Nonstop spam, telemarketing, email spam. 193+ emails from them. No, seriously.[0]<p>It&#x27;s pretty obvious why some companies are well rated in certain demographics.<p>[0] <a href="http://i.imgur.com/gCp00Cu.png" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;gCp00Cu.png</a>
dsr_about 11 years ago
Several good points: sales critters don&#x27;t know their own product, need to research things that they ought to have memorized, and use lousy social-engineering tactics that feel as greasy as a batch of frozen fries cooked in cold oil.<p>It took me eleven go-rounds with a sales critter for a CDN&#x2F;DDOS network to establish what I told him in the first phone call: there is no way that they will accept liability for disclosure of my clients&#x27; confidential data. He kept calling me by my first name, once every two sentences, asking me if we could make a deal if only we could get past this tiny technical objection, and assuring me that his manager would be able to help. The manager was just as useless.<p>I used to do sales engineering. The most important long-term function of a pre-sales engineer is to know the field so well that they can recommend something that will work for the prospective client, even if that&#x27;s not something available from the engineer&#x27;s company. Trying to sell something that doesn&#x27;t work is a bad deal for everyone.
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beatabout 11 years ago
Read <i>Crossing the Chasm.</i> Twice.