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This is your brain on engineering

48 pointsby jaboutboulabout 11 years ago

13 comments

rubiquityabout 11 years ago
I know the purpose of this ad is to promote young women to explore engineering, but does anybody else hate the whole &quot;Engineering jobs are growing faster than any other industry!&quot; meme? I hate it for a couple reasons.<p>The first reason is that it&#x27;s a lie. Software Engineering? Sure, it&#x27;s growing. Electrical Engineering? Maybe. Mechanical Engineering? Hell no.<p>The second reason is that I remember when I was growing up all the hype was &quot;Become an Accountant!! It&#x27;s growing rapidly!&quot; Now look around at everyone with an accounting degree. Whoops.
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Bartweissabout 11 years ago
Interesting - I certainly understand the intent but those notecards brought to mind a lot of questions.<p>One that I don&#x27;t see mentioned elsewhere is about &quot;By age 13, more than half of all girls are unhappy with their bodies.&quot; I&#x27;d love a source not because I doubt that it&#x27;s true, but because I want to see a number for boys. 13 is the start of puberty, and most kids are clumsy and squeaky and looking longingly at the kids who are already attractive or athletic or just not so damn awkward. I take their point, but I didn&#x27;t like my body at 13 and it wasn&#x27;t because of gender roles. It&#x27;s because my body <i>didn&#x27;t work very well</i>.
red12oosterabout 11 years ago
I&#x27;m all for promoting women into STEM fields but this just feels like a really half-assed effort to market another (possibly inferior) kinex&#x2F;lego type product
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hergeabout 11 years ago
This is the group that stole the Beastie Boy&#x27;s song and broke Adam Yauch&#x27;s dying wish, right?
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sanoliabout 11 years ago
Yeah, that last frame... I don&#x27;t know, so girls are our greatest resource because... they will be childbearers? Probably not the original intention, but it didn&#x27;t go very well.
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greenwallsabout 11 years ago
If engineeing can do this imagine what engineering can do.
czottmannabout 11 years ago
And here&#x27;s the original video on YT, minus the Wired framing.<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArNAB9GFDog" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ArNAB9GFDog</a>
whileonebeginabout 11 years ago
I get the point they&#x27;re trying to make, but putting a little girl in a kitchen with pink pastel colors, a princess egg, and other gender-biased artifacts defeats the purpose. It only reinforces the idea that girls are different and need to be treated that way. I suppose it eases gender-biased parents into buying more constructive toys for their girls, but that&#x27;s only addressing the symptom, not the problem: equality.
Wintamuteabout 11 years ago
Girls should be attracted into STEM by developing an educational&#x2F;social environment that nurtures any indication that an individual female (or male) child is showing some interest.<p>Tempting girls into the field by dangling a carrot on a stick in the form of higher wages seems demeaning and backwards. What&#x27;s more, in an age where automation is taking away more and more jobs it seems sensible to cultivate attitudes where enjoyment of work and achievement is valued more than direct personal income generation.<p>In any case, research shows that in countries where females are the most financially and socially free to do what they want they naturally tend towards roles related to medicine, caring and education, leaving the highly systematic jobs to men (engineering, computer science etc.). There&#x27;s nothing wrong with that in and of itself, its just a difference, but we just need to make sure that anybody of any gender that exists on the spectrum of humanity is as free as possible to do what makes them happy.
welandabout 11 years ago
This would have been a nice video, were it not for the last frame. &quot;Girls are more than princesses... they are our greatest resource.&quot; Nice. Not sexist at all, &#x27;cause it says nice things about girls.<p>But it does bring an interesting point: &quot;at age 7, girls begin to lose confidence in math and science&quot;. I wish there was a source to that, because the way I remember it when I was a kid, math and science weren&#x27;t exactly popular subjects among any of the 7-year old kids I met, but this is something I can relate to. I actually am an engineer (EE), studied a lot of hard math and use a lot of hard math in my day job. But, were it not for a complexity of factors that basically boiled down to &quot;You can either do programming, which you like, so it&#x27;s not a big deal, or you can study history and starve happy&quot;, I wouldn&#x27;t have gone into this job. Were it to base my decision solely on what I did in school, before university, I&#x27;d have gone into something as far removed from mathematics and physics as possible.<p>For all my pre-university years I have hated mathematics with a passion. The queen of all sciences that promised to open many doors to understanding the universe largely consisted of various ways in which to (tediously) do things we have calculators for during the first eight years, and then of various ways in which to (tediously) do things that don&#x27;t say anything about the universe. Physics, which supposedly had to be about explaining how the world works, was largely about how quickly trains reach cities and the greatest skill I was taught there was reasoning about why the results you get in real life are an order of magnitude away from what you get on paper. Due to my passion for astronomy, I <i>knew</i> there was more to Physics, but I was so utterly disgusted with Mathematics that one of the main reasons I chose EE instead of CompSci was that I wanted to make sure they don&#x27;t put math in my coding. In retrospect it was actually a good decision, but for different reasons.<p>Enter first year EE now, where the first thing you do is these two semesters of advanced fucking calculus (background: where I live, there&#x27;s a good proportion of calculus that&#x27;s actually done in high school. Most Calculus I courses I&#x27;ve seen in American universities actually cover what is 11th and 12th grade material around here). Now, I wasn&#x27;t afraid of them -- I hated mathematics, but not being stupid, I was good enough at it. But holy mother of numbers now it made sense.<p>Now the other thing you do along with those two semesters of calculus is two semesters of Physics. Well shit: <i>mechanics</i> now made sense. But it was actually a combination of factors that made it make sense.<p>The first one was Philosophy. For the life of me I couldn&#x27;t figure out why people thought Newton was such a genius, nor why classical mechanics was considered to be so beautiful. It wasn&#x27;t until put in its proper context that I understood how incredible Newton&#x27;s contributions were. No one bothers to tell school kids about how people thought that the natural state of objects was rest, not motion, and that it wasn&#x27;t until Newton figured out that and how to mathematically talk about changing quantities that we could understand how and why bodies move. <i>Now</i> it felt like Physics and Mathematics were true to their promises; prior to that, it seemed to me that they were just these boring, obnoxious tools adults built because they lacked intuition.<p>The other one was analytical mechanics but that&#x27;s probably not as important.<p>Four years of EE later, I finally began to grasp what really was fascinating about math and science. They allowed me to do a lot of things: reason about the world around me <i>and</i> about how correct my reasoning is, provide a framework upon which to build and test inventions and help me think about <i>why</i> we do some of the things we do.<p><i>None</i> of these are even remotely touched before university. Granted, they can&#x27;t be done rigorously before the basics are laid out, but at least some basic treatment should be there. But no. All <i>everyone</i>, girls and boys learn, is how to solve for x, never even suspecting that the real challenge and beauty is in formulating problems in terms of &quot;solve for x&quot;.
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brianfinkelabout 11 years ago
I don&#x27;t get this company. Encouraging girls to do technical stuff is awesome (just as awesome as encouraging boys!), but why are their building toys all purple and pink and girlie? That seems like a contradiction to me.<p>We have a 5 yo daughter and immerse her in all kinds of technical stuff (along with our 2 yo son), like building toys, 3d puzzles, math games, chess, etc. I would love for her to be a killer engineer!<p>But I have no interest in these pink building toys. There are so many far better gender-free toys. Knex, Superstructs, Legos, Magnatiles, Tegu blocks, etc., are just a few that are far more appealing to me as a parent.<p>As a society, we do seem to have a &quot;princess problem,&quot; but I just don&#x27;t see how pink building toys can solve it.
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avakuabout 11 years ago
There were lots of woman scientists in USSR, and I don&#x27;t think there was gender-related discrimination... Much fewer than men, but probably not for the reasons that are now popular to attribute to this phenomenon. Just saying...
aioprisanabout 11 years ago
uh, title typo?
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