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In France, a Move to Limit Off-the-Clock Work Emails

19 pointsby apeconmythabout 11 years ago

5 comments

jbkabout 11 years ago
Oh, come on, not those unchecked facts on HN, please...<p>This thing is about an agreement signed between some unions and a group of employers in the consulting business. This is not a law, this is far from generic, and this does not apply to millions of people, but at most 200k.<p>The agreement just reminds an &#x27;obligation to disconnect&#x27; to preserve the daily rest period of 11 hours for workers with independent contracts... The agreement does not even mention an hour...<p>Indeed, some people (with a specific contract) in consulting (notably management or strategy) do not follow the hours limitations (and notably not the 35h): they are working a defined numbers of days per year without a duration limit every day... Therefore, this agreement just reminds the right (and need) to disconnect every day.<p>Btw, even if you stop at 6pm, 11hours gives a day starting at 5am. Most of the people in the consulting industry in France I know are more often home at 10-11pm than at 6pm...<p>And finally, this is a reminder, not a law, without any actual enforcement...
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xutopiaabout 11 years ago
Keep in mind France has one of the highest GDP per hour worked.
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eldavidoabout 11 years ago
I don&#x27;t understand how ISPs, colo providers, transit operators, power plants, and other 24x7 infrastructure providers can function in environments like this.<p>Unplanned incidents shouldn&#x27;t happen regularly, but on the off chance they do, I can&#x27;t imagine being caught between screwing my customers vs. breaking the law. Talk about a rock and a hard place...
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RRRAabout 11 years ago
<a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/04/10/debunked_france_did_not_just_ban_workers_from_answering_emails_after_hours.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.slate.com&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;moneybox&#x2F;2014&#x2F;04&#x2F;10&#x2F;debunked_fran...</a>
dmethvinabout 11 years ago
The work-at-home environment brings a lot of questions to the whole employer-employee relationship and work environment. For example, my wife works at a US government job where they have the ability to work from home 3 days a week and &quot;liberal leave&quot; for snow days. If someone is scheduled to work from home on a snow day, should they still work? What if their kids can&#x27;t get to day care, and who will shovel the sidewalk?
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