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I built an application to solve a problem but got nobody to buy it

69 pointsby hemtrosabout 11 years ago
I have built a Windows Desktop Application to solve a problem, the problem of creating Identity cards of a large number of students/staffs. The creation of ID card is generally done with photoshop and separately edited for each card, arranged in a sheet of 10 cards. I automated this whole procedure. I showed this application to people who make ID cards in manual way and have suffered a lot in past. They want the application but not interested to buy. Why do people want everything for free when other have put a lot of effort on making it?

31 comments

pathyabout 11 years ago
You are probably pitching your product to the wrong audience.<p>Your customer is not the one actually making the cards, rather their boss. Making the cards only costs the employees time, something they don&#x27;t mind wasting for the most part. For the manager or owner it directly costs money, time wasted on making cards costs the employer money in the form of wages. They are also the one with the purchasing power in an organization like a school.<p>Creating a more efficient organization is generally speaking not part of the scope of someone making ID cards, but it certainly is for their employers or managers.
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smoyerabout 11 years ago
&quot;The creation of ID card is generally done with photoshop and separately edited for each card&quot;<p>I&#x27;ve actually never seen this done. The schools and companies in my area all have systems that integrate the picture taking with the identity information and automatically print a card. What you&#x27;re describing simply requires too much skill and time.<p>So you&#x27;ve built a product, but you&#x27;re competing with packaged systems. I did a quick search and picked the first (non-ad) link: <a href="http://www.idsecurityonline.com/photo-id-systems/?gclid=CI2s8dqu3b0CFe99Ogod8VEADQ" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.idsecurityonline.com&#x2F;photo-id-systems&#x2F;?gclid=CI2s...</a>. It looks to me like you assumed you&#x27;d found a niche market without realizing the breadth of competition. Sorry ... and good luck.
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graemeabout 11 years ago
&gt;Why do people want everything for free when other have put a lot of effort on making it?<p>I don&#x27;t think that&#x27;s the problem. People will pay if what you build solves their problem. More specifically, they&#x27;ll pay if they see that what you build solves their problem.<p>Before building, you should check:<p>1. Do they have a problem?<p>2. Do they know they have a problem?<p>3. How much of a problem is it for them?<p>4. Who, exactly, has the ability to act on this problem?<p>5. What language do they use to describe the problem?<p>6. Do they have any requirements that aren&#x27;t obvious to me? Can I incorporate them into what I&#x27;m building?<p>If this sounds like marketing, it is, but it&#x27;s the good sort. Building something people don&#x27;t actually want is a perennial problem.<p>Rather than trying to sell what you have, figure out what they want. Then you&#x27;ll know whether to:<p>1. Change who you&#x27;re talking to<p>2. Change how you&#x27;re talking about the product<p>3. Modify the product<p>4. Abandon ship
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peterjancelisabout 11 years ago
The win-win here is not between you and the people who you are unemploying, it&#x27;s between you and the person paying their salary.<p>Go and talk to the business owners or managers of those ID making people.
Jugurthaabout 11 years ago
Incentives, my friend..<p>This is the situation where both the Boss and the Employee have nothing (or little to gain). It may appear weird, but indulge me. I have seen this happen over and over.<p>- Say employees are paid X amount a month. Now, with their current method, they can be slimey and not deliver, and then tell the boss it&#x27;s complicated, Photoshop, etc.. So it&#x27;s just few cards to deliver per day.<p>Maybe they have their macros, etc, to speed stuff up (not to the point of your software), but they only speed things up when they need to, and they slow them when they need a break. A card can take up an eternity, just because it&#x27;s easier to do work on the same thing for 6 hours: You don&#x27;t think much. Start the second thing for 2 hours and go home.<p>So a software that speeds this whole thing risks taking control out of these employees, because there would be a clear metric, a clear number of cards to expect.<p>It doesn&#x27;t &quot;depend&quot; on anything anymore. They can&#x27;t hustle their way around it.<p>Second problem is that, these employees make X amount a month, producing y cards.. With your software, they would <i>still</i> make that amount with 10y cards, so they have nothing to gain, really.<p>Sure, they&#x27;re making more cards but &quot;what&#x27;s in it for me&quot;.<p>There is one, additional tricky part: The boss doesn&#x27;t want it, and why..<p>The boss is paying the employee X dollars&#x2F;month and the employee produces, say 10 cards&#x2F;day to fill a 30 cards&#x2F;day order from their clients.<p>With your software, the employee produces the whole 30 cards&#x2F;day, and then what ? Sits there all day ?<p><i>Even</i> for the boss, an order can wait 3 days to fill. No problem. The employee is there, he&#x27;s being paid anyway, so whether it takes 1 day or 3 days is irrelevant.<p>The reason they&#x27;re not interested is that they don&#x27;t ship that many cards anyway, so the benefit of having your software is only marginal.<p>But maybe you can do the following.. Make your own company and gut them.<p>Or if you don&#x27;t want to, and you&#x27;re willing to force yourself upon them, you can contact their clients and ask them if they had something against your software (which ?)..<p>The software that makes a gazillion cards per day your contractor doesn&#x27;t want to buy&#x2F;licence, making you wait to get your cards..
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genofonabout 11 years ago
&gt;Why do people want everything for free when other have put a lot of effort on making it?<p>people don&#x27;t. There is a market and you have to understand it before making your product.<p>It&#x27;s not a question of how much effort you put, it&#x27;s how much value the customer can see in it.
clutterjoeabout 11 years ago
&gt; Why do people want everything for free when other &gt; have put a lot of effort on making it?<p>Ask yourself this: do you like to pay top-dollar for every product and service you buy? There&#x27;s your answer. If given the choice, you would also want everything for free.<p>What was the asking price for the software? $1 or $1,000 changes the calculus in the customer&#x27;s mind. Did you consider a subscription-based service? Charge a small amount every month and you get a steady source of income, and the customer thinks they&#x27;re getting a deal.<p>&gt; The creation of ID card is generally done with &gt; photoshop and separately edited for each card<p>This may be true for an institution you&#x27;re familiar with, but cannot possibly be true everywhere. ID badges are ubiquitous and creating them en masse is a common problem (Google the competition: <a href="http://bit.ly/1sW6BKq" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bit.ly&#x2F;1sW6BKq</a>). Photoshop is expensive, and while it&#x27;s great at putting mustaches on the faces of the ID photos, it&#x27;s not great for creating a ton of badges. Not to mention that it&#x27;s difficult to find administrators with Photoshop skills that want to remain administrators.
hemtrosabout 11 years ago
I am from Nepal. Its definite that nobody here can buy licensed copy of Photoshop. People ocassionally buy original Antivirus copies. Selling software in such a market is tough. I have just completed Bachelor of Software Engineering. Developing countries are being able to provide world class education but market is definitely not what they can provide. Creating this software was my friend&#x27;s idea and he is definitely going to give me share from his earning by making cards but selling software in developing countries is tough since people still think intangible things should be free. Changing this mindset is a big challenge and I am still trying to convince some of the potential customers.
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zupa-huabout 11 years ago
I had the same realization few months ago with a product I have been growth hacking for too long, improving on feedback, A&#x2F;B testing, only to figure out people don&#x27;t <i>really</i> care.<p>&gt;&gt; people want everything for free just everything of that value to them. Give them a software that turns them 20 yrs old and they will pay.<p>If you are about to give up on putting more energy into it, talk to your friends maybe someone wants to jump on board and put energy into selling it.<p>Hey, you are around 22, already experiencing a seeming-to-fail business. Awesome. Extract your take-aways, learn, move on. Go and read The Lean Startup if you haven&#x27;t read it yet.
petersouthabout 11 years ago
We spent tons of time and effort making an awesome software program only to realize in the end the users were not computer savvy and would rather do the work in a non-technical way regardless of the benefits.<p>If any of the sales deal with Government entities there could be a million dumb reasons. I&#x27;ve seen: someone doesn&#x27;t believe that there much be a catch with something so cheap--decides to buy the thing that costs tens of thousands more instead, manager decides they don&#x27;t want to process paperwork for a new integration regardless of cost savings, management doesn&#x27;t want something cloud based so they can &quot;have more control over it&quot; by buying servers, &quot;the sales guy emails me alot, so it&#x27;s kinda creeping me out&quot;, etc...,etc...<p>I also see alot of times the people making the decisions on technology for organizations (again, Government) are the people who don&#x27;t even own computers at home and don&#x27;t have even a basic fundamental understanding of the concepts of what they are dealing with. If the IT departments are brought it, it&#x27;s more of a yes&#x2F;no we can&#x2F;cannot support whatever it is you are presenting rather than that sucks or this is smart. Actually, some of the stuff IT was suggesting boggled my mind too. It seemed like they were very against using anything internet based...
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_random_about 11 years ago
What if you implement in-app purchases. It will look like a free program, but when they get used to it: &quot;Bang! You have used all your id-card-coins for the week. Would you like to buy more?&quot;. This is how consumers are owned these days and they seem to enjoy it.
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morituriabout 11 years ago
How are you doing your sales - one to one? It helps if you have some pilot customers who can give you some testimonials or referrals. You could offer the software for free for a charity or event (e.g. creating ID cards for volunteers).
kashifzaidi1about 11 years ago
You should take a different approach. Your target audience aren&#x27;t the decision makers. a. Try to sell the product to the decision makers in that business (school management etc.). Pitch them about saving resources. (employee time) b. If for some reason you still wanna target the employees. Let them use it for a small number of cards (say 5% of what the general average for an employee is) and then make them pay for more. (they will only realise there time and effort saved when the witness it.(Pitching to them isn&#x27;t really gonna help)
canatan01about 11 years ago
Because they are used to that by now. Maybe offer a basic version for free and premium addons for a fee? And in the future I suggest first asking some potential customers before making your product. Will save you some time. But did you ask ALL the people that might be a customer? And the are also other organizations besides schools and universities that need to make ID cards. Maybe they are interested. Or change you software a little and you might be able to apply it to another problem?
OoTheNigerianabout 11 years ago
Do you have a website for this your product? Perhaps you are pitching it to your locality and the market is not large enough.<p>You may want to make is a SaaS product and as people have suggested have a free version with limited features. e.g maximum of 10 ID cards at a time.<p>Remember again, it is in the interest of the people that have the business of making cards to have this as complex as possible so they can charge companies more.<p>So you may want to pitch this to the companies directly and not the people who make the cards for them.
anthony_francoabout 11 years ago
How much value does the application create for end-users?<p>If you&#x27;re targeting consumers, they can be very fickle. As we&#x27;ve seen time and again, they easily shell out $5 for a cup of coffee but complain about $1 mobile applications.<p>If you&#x27;re targeting businesses, you got a better shot. Demonstrate how much money you&#x27;re saving a business, and they&#x27;ll easily buy. But if your product doesn&#x27;t create a significant amount of value, it&#x27;ll be hard to change the status quo.
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Mandatumabout 11 years ago
This is usually done in InDesign if it&#x27;s a batch job, Photoshop - definitely not unless it&#x27;s a tiny web shop. InDesign allows you to create a print-ready PDF and the printer will know how to &quot;step it up&quot; (basically lay multiple on a page to save $). Your software sounds goods for people who don&#x27;t do this sort of work constantly - such as schools, medium-sized businesses, etc.<p>Try pitching to those audiences.
joeweeabout 11 years ago
Have you considered finding a sales partner? Someone that already has the relationships with buyers in your target space? For example, educational book publishers?<p>I always prefer to partner if I have technology that is useful to a niche market I don&#x27;t have strong contacts in. They will be able to get to those who really have purchasing power and give you immediate feedback on whether there is really a market or not.
logicuceabout 11 years ago
I think you should fight this problem with larger availability. Create a website and put it online for people to download.<p>Moreover, if you can make it a webapp, even better where you can charge per ID card generated.<p>I have seen people having this problem and they paid decent money for the ID card generation. You are just targeting wrong audience. Don&#x27;t talk to people who generate the cards, appeal to people who want the cards.
tarunkotiaabout 11 years ago
Don&#x27;t sell the <i>intangible</i> product, instead try selling the whole package of creating ID cards. It will be a simpler pitch to your customer and for all you know potential customers may start to ask you for the software who already have a established process of creating ID cards but don&#x27;t have the software capability to support it.
michaelrhansenabout 11 years ago
Because secretly they love their complicated process. It&#x27;s job security. As others state, go to a higher level.
plicenseabout 11 years ago
Open source your code. Let it get noticed by recruiters from big companies. Get hired by one of them. Make money. This is the current career model and is counter intuitive. Hey, Google and Facebook are free products! Imagine what would&#x27;ve happened if they were paid?
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EGregabout 11 years ago
Maybe change it to a freemium app and have a very easy in-app purchase model.<p><a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh694067.aspx" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;msdn.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;library&#x2F;windows&#x2F;apps&#x2F;hh69406...</a>
palencharizardabout 11 years ago
Because there is a lot of free software out there.<p>I think a better marketing plan is to charge a monthly subscription. I have no data on this, but I believe a lot more people would rather pay $5&#x2F;mo indefinitely rather than $400 one time.
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pskittleabout 11 years ago
I know it&#x27;s not ideal but people are not willing to pay for software , maybe you should approach software firms and sell your app to them . They may have the resources to spread the word and get it to scale
paul_fabout 11 years ago
Maybe you are solving an annoyance and not a real problem. All problems are being solved somehow. It is important problems being solved poorly that lead to successful products. This likely fails that test.
dalacvabout 11 years ago
+1 for not putting a link to your product&#x27;s website
onurguabout 11 years ago
Maybe because there is a very decent application in Linux called gLabels.<p>Besides that, the most important factor is the cost of one hour of work of an employee for the boss.
goughjustinabout 11 years ago
What&#x27;s the link to your product?
allanlundhansenabout 11 years ago
so the problem was not big enough...
benihanaabout 11 years ago
&gt;Why do people want everything for free when other have put a lot of effort on making it?<p>This is a flawed question. People pay money based on the value delivered to them, not the effort the developer put into a project. This is tough to hear, but nobody cares if you put a lot of effort into something if it doesn&#x27;t solve their problems better than their current solution. Check your ego at the door of your business if you want to be successful.