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Why we ditched our free plan

92 pointsby PhilipAabout 11 years ago

17 comments

gabemartabout 11 years ago
I would suggest that you don't call your free users "freeloaders". That's a pejorative term that suggests you're being taken advantage of. You offered your product for free, they took you up on the offer. It's fine that you've decided it's better for your business to cease offering the free tier, but it's unprofessional to use a pejorative to describe customers who accepted your offer of a free product.
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rsobersabout 11 years ago
Wow, this is the absolute wrong way to ditch a free plan. Holy shit!<p>The post comes off really condescending towards the beta users that helped get the product off the ground.<p>Sure, the business lessons are valid and helpful (despite being a complete regurgitation of advice espoused by people like Rob Walling and Patrick McKenzie), but IMO they don&#x27;t belong in the same post that tells a cohort of your very first users:<p>&quot;Yeah, we needed you in the beginning to test our idea and product, but now you&#x27;re a burden. Get lost.&quot;<p>Grandfather your free plan beta customers in. It&#x27;s the right thing to do. The free plan, IIRC, had a really low ceiling in the amount of data that could be collected--like 150 people or something silly.<p>Lessons for SaaS founders: 1.) Don&#x27;t have a free plan. 2.) Don&#x27;t set an expectation that there will be a free plan to get more early testers. 3.) Don&#x27;t ever refer to any of your customers (free or not) like they&#x27;re a number in a spreadsheet.<p>(Is it just me, or is the trak.io blog theme eerily similar to Signal v. Noise?)
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prof_hobartabout 11 years ago
To me it looks like the mistake it looks like you made wasn&#x27;t offering a free product. It was offering &quot;.. a super generous Free plan. A free plan so generous that an average funded startup would very rarely outgrow it.&quot;.<p>One reason for giving away free accounts is that lone hobby developers can very quickly become founders of rather bigger startups. These lone hobby developers are likely to only be interested in free - $9&#x2F;month is a fairly big investment for someone just doing a hobby. The second it becomes a real business, on the other hand, that $9 is likely to look quite different. On a very note, I work for a pretty large organisation and have quite a lot of input in product choices. I also tinker around with stuff in my spare time. I definitely won&#x27;t be paying you $9&#x2F;month for my tinkering, and so I&#x27;ll never get to know if it&#x27;s something I&#x27;d want to recommend for consideration for my organisation. And I doubt I&#x27;m unique in this kind of position.<p>The trick is to make the free stuff only good enough for those people who would never pay for it anyway (allowing people who could become customers in the future a chance to get used to your product), and make stuff that would be critical to any real user - such as access to support, ability to support multiple users or whatever - only available to your paying customers. Otherwise, you run the risk of chasing off a lot of potential future business.
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SethMurphyabout 11 years ago
Google analytics was originally Urchin, and If I remember correctly it was 49.95 a month. I heard about it from a friend and started paying for it. A few months later Google bought them and it was suddenly free. It felt like picking a good stock and the feeling of going from paid to free was elating. I say this not as a well actually (ironically it is), but to support that if you have a good product people will pay and will recommend it to friends. Free is only good if the number of users on your platform is of benefit to you. In your case, I think it&#x27;s not and you are probably making the right choice by focusing on both product development, with a little revenue on the side from the start (or at least early). Good luck.
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pingburgabout 11 years ago
I&#x27;ve respected the HN community for a long time. This was a place where ideas could be shared and unlike many sites that were just an echo-chamber for a particular point of view, things were debated here on a much higher, respectful level. Lately, however, if you don&#x27;t &#x27;fit&#x27; a particular worldview, comments are down voted instead of being debated.<p>Case in point. Here a company has provided insight into why they don&#x27;t believe their product fits with the freemium model. This is so against dogma and current ideology that it&#x27;s being down voted not on its merits but on the audacity to have a different opinion.
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tigroferoceabout 11 years ago
Do you realise that in the upper right corner of the page you linked there a link titled &quot;Try Track.io For Free&quot;?
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AhtiKabout 11 years ago
&quot;After introducing our $29 Priority Access program, offering Beta waiting list subscribers an instant queue jump, we started to see a huge shift in our customer development. Features that we’d previously emphasized because everyone said they were ‘cool’ no longer came up in conversations.&quot;<p>This &quot;Priority Access Program&quot; is pure genius for filtering and validation! I haven&#x27;t seen that much outgoing method before but I sure believe it can work our great. Absolutely brilliant. Can you share your conversion rate for Priority Access? (PriorityAccessCount&#x2F;QueueSize?)
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JoeAltmaierabout 11 years ago
We have a free plan, but its limited. Ours is a communications product (sococo.com) and the free plan supports a small number of simultaneous users. Paid plans increase that limit.<p>We track plans carefully. A certain fraction stays in the free plan, keeps using it regularly, and that&#x27;s fine. But another predictable fraction moves up. We can pretty much tell which fraction that will be - there&#x27;s a critical mass of usage that takes off.<p>So our free plan is a money maker - every month it grows our revenue stream. We&#x27;ll never get rid of it.
BerislavLopacabout 11 years ago
As the saying goes, if a product is free then you are the product. In other words, if you can&#x27;t sell your users, you have to charge them.
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nsxwolfabout 11 years ago
Charging money is an awesome business model.
jwblackwellabout 11 years ago
Whether or not you should have a free plan really depends on your product.<p>In the case of trak.io, it&#x27;s clear that the costs per user are too high for them to do it. Google Analytics can do it because it&#x27;s backed by a big business and they can fund it. Many startups don&#x27;t have this choice.<p>I&#x27;d just be wary of ditching a free plan. It&#x27;s a great way to reach a lot of people with relatively little effort, just be careful you can support them with your business model.
marincountyabout 11 years ago
Why not just start charging? If people can&#x27;t live without your app, won&#x27;t they just buy it? I&#x27;m glad I read your blog;it reaffirmed an old saying. The more someone tries to sell their product, or explain how brilliant they are--the more skeptical I become. I don&#x27;t know why this blog irritated me, but this company made it to HN; which just might be better than charging the Free Loaders.
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borskiabout 11 years ago
While this may work for some, be careful of listening to advice on the internet. I have read dozens of articles like this.<p>For us, to be totally honest, our conversion went way down when we introduced the 30-day trial. When we had a free plan (which we do again), our conversion was way higher, because I suppose it took &gt;30 days for people to truly see the value in the product. So for us, a free plan is what worked best.
danielweberabout 11 years ago
&quot;Free users require the most support&quot; is something I have experienced. A co-founder gave a free copy of our more-than-one-thousand-dollar software to a colleague, who gave it to one of her students, who pestered us about why it wouldn&#x27;t work on his VM.
robobroabout 11 years ago
This is an advertisement.
andrew_wc_brownabout 11 years ago
They&#x27;re splash video has the same chords as Wrecking Ball.
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notastartupabout 11 years ago
I think this article has merit but it fails to consider that free users may eventually upgrade to a paying account.<p>Would it have been better to not offer a free plan to begin with? Instead have a 14 day money back guarantee with each plan. People with money and with intention will only use the product. If they don&#x27;t like it they will probably ask for a refund but not many people actually do in reality because of the hassle.
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