Prismic.io goes live

46 pointsby Doublonabout 11 years ago

20 comments

sunirabout 11 years ago

A few things. I would expect a writing application to have incredible copywriting. You have to out-write the writers!Here are some examples where the text could be improved, though really the whole page needs to be rewritten using the inverted pyramid.1. "Api" should be "API".2. "You're the skilled developer, so why would it be ok to settle for technical constraints as soon as there's manageable content involved?" is awkward. I actually don't know what you're pitching. What is manageable content? Why use a fill verb like "involved" instead of something concrete?3. "prismic.io helps you make all your content adaptable to all possible designs." is passive. "prismic.io adapts your content to..." who knows.4. "All possible designs" is clearly impossible.Second, I still don't know what this does after reading the homepage.Third, the title of this post was too vague. Maybe that was beyond your control. Did you submit it?Fourth, almost all the graphics are not related to the application. Show don't tell!

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mattmanserabout 11 years ago

It's frustrating as this product looks like a great idea and looks well done, but you're leaving out all the important bits of information that I'd want to know immediately.Do I have to request the the content from prismic with every request? Is it done client or server side? What kind of caching will I be able to do my end? What happens when you go down?That website and especially the video are terrible at communicating (pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, arghhhhhh). I thought it was because I was watching it without sound. Turns out there is no sound.It visually looks great, but the content itself is practically useless, classic style over substance.And the API documentation is bad. What does the first section of the documentation even mean?/api is the single endpoint of your content repository. You can learn and browse everything else from there. You should never forge any API URL in your code, as all usable forms (that define what URLs you can build) are available in /api (and the URLs might change as features get rolled out).I (finally) found the api which is hidden in the help menu of all places and kinda can guess what you're supposed to do, but I think you've a few rough edges to sand off in the usability.Gratz on the launch, but get someone in to help you write the copy and overhaul those API docs.

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nichocharabout 11 years ago

Can you help me understand exactly what this does, and how it is better than basic CMS? (not being a brat, I'm actually curious. It's just that I just couldn't quite figure it out by reading the website at a quick glance, which you could also take as feedback I guess)

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14113about 11 years ago

I hate this trend that startup homepages seem to be going through. They don't seem to actually explain what their product is. All I can see from this page are a load of assertions that either:A) It's not the same as thing X B) It's better than thing Y, because of Z C) Their Q (which is part of their product) is really really good!To someone landing on the page, that doesn't tell me what they do on a grander, more abstract scale, it only gives me a pinhole view of parts of their app, and thus prevents me from seeing the bigger picture. I'm sure the product as a whole is great (after all, I know each part is great), but I still have no idea what the product as a whole does!I've read the FAQ, and I still can't quite figure out what this is offering. Can anyone condense this into a single paragraph (or better, sentence) that describes concisely, and completely what prismic does? I really can't fathom it from their website...

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Xdesabout 11 years ago

I'd like to see an open source version of this. I like the API centric approach to site building, but I don't want some third party to have access to all of my content in one place.

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enoptixabout 11 years ago

What are the SEO implications of this? I tried looking at their site (since they built it with their tech) and at the FAQ but couldnt find an answer. Is the content pulled via AJAX after page load? Or is it pulled server-side on the initial request?

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crypsisabout 11 years ago

This is a cool idea that I think a lot of Digital agencies need. I can't think of how many projects I've lead where we had to build a custom cms for a design that needed to be pixel perfect and was hard to do in either Wordpress or an Enterprise CMS.However, I think your own website does a poor job of communicating what it does. The language of "display content your way" is very vague and it takes a lot of digging to figure out what it is that you are offering. Your target audience is not the general non-technical user, your target audience is the Technical Lead or Software Architect or programmer that is actually building the website. They are going to be the one that says use this instead of Wordpress or some Enterprise sized CMS.My suggestions are:1. Put screenshots of the product immediately on the home page (instead a blank desk, pencils, plants... what is that?).2. Describe precisely what it is: a new type of CMS that eliminates templates and delivers content as a service to your own custom front end. Everyone hates CMS templates so I think you can strike a chord there. I'm not a copywriter so someone can probably spruce that statement up. I actually echo some of the other commenters statements in that you really ought to have a copywriter look through your content on the website and focus it a bit more. I think the writing/copy on the site is weak in describing the product and needs to be much more technical and specific since your target audience is different.

sudhirjabout 11 years ago

From what I can make out:1. Define all document types (document metadata and structure) in their custom JSON.2. They build pretty looking CRUD forms based off the JSON so non technical content writers can fill in and manage content.3. Expose all documents via a REST API with a bespoke query language.4. Allow content to be edited collaboratively and changes to be scheduled / buffered.That's about it, actually. Would work very well when I build a site for my mum's chocolate shop.

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Dorian-Marieabout 11 years ago

A few suggestions:* Make it possible to "Tab" between fields, same for using "Cmd-Return", "Cmd-A", ...* Inserting an image is really ankward, as soon as I upload it, I expect it to be in the article/product/... but it's not, I have to "Select" it, and then choose some kind of dimensions, and the UI/UX for it is not user-friendly, I think you should show the image in the article images sections, and then have small icons for differents sizes, or just when clicking the image, then we can edit it.* When you use the terms "Publish", "Live now", ..., I expect to see something publicly accessible, like even some kind of raw template of a website, or show me the API urls, because now I'm like hitting the "Publish" button and then nothing seems to happen.* Also when clicking "Publish", "publish now" should be the default (eg: always have defaults for select inputs)Otherwise it looks really good and I like the ideas.Do you plan on translating it? Also, you say it's free, but then there is a billing section, etc..., do you have a idea how much it will be?

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andybakabout 11 years ago

First impression of the writing room is that it's suffering from classic 'mystery meat' navigation. I think it would be a hard sell to busy clients who hate learning new interfaces.I'd love to see footage of the user testing on this. I might be wrong but I can imagine many a furrowed brow on initial exposure.Update - Either I'm really dumb or adding a picture to a post is rather confusing.I was really expecting a completely stellar UX to be the main selling point. It's a very pretty UX but it's not immediately intuitive. Which leads me to wonder what the main selling point of this actually is. I kind of like the idea of decoupling content from the code that generates the website but that's an abstraction that many will struggle with.It's not really any worse than what we're currently expecting content authors to work with (Wordpress et al) - but it's not significantly better either. So it lives or dies on the value of the decoupling - which I'm struggling to feel is a big enough win.

sadacheabout 11 years ago

By the way, in another HN thread, we posted a $60 discount code "HNApril15" to thank HN community for this awesome and constructive feedback.

megaman821about 11 years ago

I have been using this approach internally for quite a while, a CMS that exposes all content through its API and then websites, mobile apps, etc. that consume the API. Taking it a step further you can build libraries in your favorite programming language against your API. This reduces building a Rails, Node.js, iOS, or Android app down to mostly design implementation.

nemesisjabout 11 years ago

There's no mention of embedding or "white labeling" prismic within other applications. Is this possible? For example, within product X I need to manage quite a bit of content, but would rather not build in a CMS. Can we integrate Prismic to do the content management parts?

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tloganabout 11 years ago

I would suggest to clean up landing page and clearly explain what is prismic.io. I tried to figure out that from the landing page, but no luck. And if you are not native English speaker - use that in your advantage. Write short sentences.

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mericssonabout 11 years ago

Anyone figure out how to view a site created from scratch that has newly published documents? Not obvious how to view a site as an unauthenticated user.Or is the API the only way to consume content published on a repository/site?

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krmmalikabout 11 years ago

What kind of guarantees are you providing that a company that will invest itd resources in creating content on your platform wont be held to ransom tomorrow by either price hikes or service closures or something else?

lbotosabout 11 years ago

Biggest challenge: I thought it was these guys with a new look:<a href="http://getprismatic.com/home" rel="nofollow">http://getprismatic.com/home</a>

jack_hanfordabout 11 years ago

It appears that scrolling isn't working for me. Chrome on a Mac.. Perhaps it's a CSS overflow issue?Edit: Only when the video is playing

MicroBertoabout 11 years ago

We use Google Drive to collaborate on our content. It's simple but it's free. Why should we switch?

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senorgomezabout 11 years ago

Very cool, congrats