We have:<p>Kent Beck who "doesn't care any more what people practice or do w.r.t to TDD" because he uses it as he sees the needs/fits.<p>Martin Fowler who tries to further his catalogue by incorporating newer patterns/methodologies/techniques (REST, NoSQL, NodeJS, MicroServices) that potentially sees "TDD" as "been there, catalogued that, time to see other patterns"<p>and last but not least, DHH, who just recently came out to the public and made an announcement that "I don't do TDD anymore!".<p>Missing from the group: Uncle Bob, someone who will potentially argue that TDD is useful.<p>Come on guys! We want Uncle Bob there! Let's make this happen.
Metacomment: Thanks to Thoughtworks (no affiliation) for putting this together, and let's do this more often when this sort of discussion breaks out, it's a fantastic idea. Blog missives have their place in the world, but real debate does too.
Maybe we can have a TDD person with from the rails community if you do another hangout? I have a feeling you'll end up talking past each other because you work on different kinds of things.<p>Perhaps <a href="https://twitter.com/garybernhardt" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/garybernhardt</a><p>His blog response to DHH's keynote: <a href="https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/blog/2014/tdd-straw-men-and-rhetoric" rel="nofollow">https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/blog/2014/tdd-straw-men-a...</a>
Some Background:<p>The RailsConf keynote that started it all:
<a href="http://www.confreaks.com/videos/3315-railsconf-keynote-writing-software" rel="nofollow">http://www.confreaks.com/videos/3315-railsconf-keynote-writi...</a><p>David's thoughts in blog post form:
<a href="http://david.heinemeierhansson.com/2014/tdd-is-dead-long-live-testing.html" rel="nofollow">http://david.heinemeierhansson.com/2014/tdd-is-dead-long-liv...</a><p>A response from Kent Beck
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/notes/kent-beck/rip-tdd/750840194948847" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/notes/kent-beck/rip-tdd/75084019494...</a><p>This should be a great discussion.
This looks interesting, but am I looking at Google Plus correctly and really not seeing an 'Add to calendar' option to put this event on my gmail calendar? I could have sworn Google was really good about making it easy to put stuff on their calendar. Yeesh.