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Are you paid to look busy?

250 pointsby resdirectorabout 11 years ago

28 comments

ryandrakeabout 11 years ago
“We should do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian Darwinian theory he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.” -- Buckminster Fuller
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hawkharrisabout 11 years ago
This reminds me of a study focusing on soccer games. It analyzed A) how often players shot goals toward the left, middle and right sides of the net; and B) how often goalies responded by jumping toward the left, middle and right sides.<p>The stats revealed a surprising phenomenon. Though opposing players shot toward each area of the goal evenly — about 33% of the time — goalies jumped toward the left or the right 80-90% of the time.<p>So what explains the irrational behavior of these highly skilled goalies? The researcher who presented this to me and others at a conference argued that it came down to the appearance of productivity. If a goalie leaps left or right and fails to stop the goal, he can claim that he tried his best. But if a goalie remains in the center, even if doing so is the most effective option, he risks looking like he did nothing.<p>I call this &quot;productivity theater.&quot; In other words, there&#x27;s sometimes a disconnect between what it means to be an effective worker and what it means to appear effective.<p>To offer just one example from the workplace: in some offices, the culture dictates that employees must stay from 8 to 6 each day. Their schedules may make them look like hard workers, but some are probably checking Facebook or email much of the day. Contrast this with offices that emphasize owning and completing projects rather than working an amount of time. With the second policy, you&#x27;re likely to find some workers who appear less busy but make more meaningful contributions.
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dsirijusabout 11 years ago
My employee next to me is working hard. I&#x27;m in elinks in terminal on HN and on IRC, with vertical split of htop in tmux. He thinks I&#x27;m working hard too, with all those numbers, columns, scrolling output and blinking cursor.<p>I feel so bad right now. I&#x27;m going to go actually work.
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danthemanabout 11 years ago
&quot;And then I thought, well, maybe that explains some other things, like why is it there’s this deep, popular resentment against people who have real jobs? They can get people so angry at auto-workers, just because they make 30 bucks an hour, which is like nowhere near what corporate lawyers make, but nobody seems to resent them. They get angry at the auto-workers; they get angry at teachers.&quot;<p>I thought people were angry at these people because of their unions - all the other jobs he listed are nonunion and thus the higher wage is actually a market wage.
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jqmabout 11 years ago
The worlds wasted wealth...<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-Worlds-Wasted-Wealth-Environment/dp/0962442321" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;The-Worlds-Wasted-Wealth-Environment&#x2F;d...</a><p>The book is poorly written to the point it seems less than credible but it has some interesting takes on the situation. The author postulates something he calls &quot;waste distribution territories&quot; that have risen to take advantage of technological advancements. The basic gist is that instead of people working less as technology advances, unnecessary jobs are added to society and people work the same or even more at selling insurance, filling out forms in HR etc. etc. He points out numerous specific examples of this waste and there are many more he misses. He does offer some specific solutions to this problem that are very unlikely to be rationally implemented without a major structural collapse first. Overall, a poorly written book with some very insightful concepts.
3minus1about 11 years ago
5 years ago I worked as a consultant at a large enterprise software company. There were definitely large periods of time (months long) where I was averaging 3 hours a week of actual work. Insane, insane work hours. There would be a 5 person team (Analysts, QAs, developer) spending 5 weeks on a release that consisted in 45 min worth of text changes. I don&#x27;t usually hear people on HN talk about not having work to do. I guess it&#x27;s different at start ups. It&#x27;s just fucking unbelievable to me though that I would get paid so much to do so little. And I feel like some kind jerk complaining about it.
higherpurposeabout 11 years ago
There&#x27;s a saying in my country for this: &quot;they pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work&quot; - meaning the salary isn&#x27;t great, and they&#x27;re getting what they&#x27;re paying for.
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dansoabout 11 years ago
I&#x27;ve had this concept rolling around in my head occasionally...the best path in becoming a better programmer is to <i>sincerely desire to automate yourself out of your job</i>.<p>Instead of backing up a system via GUI every week, figure out the API calls needed to hook up via a script. After a few weeks of triggering that script by hand, write a cron job and a logger that logs the relevant transactions. After awhile of manually SSHing into the backup server to verify the existence of those backups, write some kind of litmus test that fails if the backups were corrupted. Instead of checking the log every once in awhile, have it email you (and just to be safe, use other kinds of push notifications too ) when success or failure happens. And instead of lackadaisically running emergency drills to see that the backups do work, write a automated deployment system that runs off of those backups, and put that in a cron job.<p>At the end of all that, you still should want to be &quot;the human&quot;. You should still want to SSH in manually, check the checksums, deploy from backup on a lazy Friday just to make sure...but those are <i>intentional</i> actions...not just some repetitive drill you do because you have to. And if something does go clusterfuck, you&#x27;re still there to handle things.<p>So the test is: now that you&#x27;ve automated the robot-part of your work...which, the fact that you could automate it means it would have been automated <i>some day</i>...what do you feel free to do now? Does your company have the foresight to reward you, both in salary, and in discretion to pursue projects that truly require human insight and expertise? Or is the culture such that it&#x27;s just better to keep your automated-workflow to yourself, and spend the day surfing the internet? Not that either of those choices are wrong...I mean, when I&#x27;m near retirement age, I will definitely choose the latter happily...but if that first option of moving ahead isn&#x27;t available, then that&#x27;s a sign that you might have to open your horizons.<p>Of course, if you can&#x27;t automate any of your work...congratulations, it just might mean you&#x27;re working on exciting, non-repetitive things that (...for now) require the best of human insight and intelligence.<p>edit: forgot to add the best bit...no matter what the outcome at the end of the automation process, you&#x27;ll still have become a better developer by just building it out. I think 99% of my experience and knowledge of the command-line (and also, much-needed appreciation of functional design) grew out of an impatience with perfectly good GUIs. Just one of the other upsides to being a programmer...you can appreciably lessen your own workload so directly through improvement of your personal craftsmanship.
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gosubabout 11 years ago
Seinfeld already did it. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd9ma2UVLHM" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=yd9ma2UVLHM</a>
hippichabout 11 years ago
If you are developer or some sort of IT engineer, don&#x27;t automatically think your job is not BS. Like job of developing thin client to a windows server running licensed software to get around license costs of software, where price is based on number of users... Yes, this types of businesses generate TONS of money from essentially the fact, that supplier and customer could not get in agreement for more reasonable license...
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keypusherabout 11 years ago
No, I&#x27;m not, and it&#x27;s one of the things I enjoy about programming. Some weeks I work 30 hours, others I work 60. But if I did the things I committed to doing this week, then I go home. Why sit in the office and pretend to be working? It makes no sense.
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reboog711about 11 years ago
The bulk of my clients pay me hourly, on an as needed basis.<p>I&#x27;ve had a few clients; where it sometimes it feels like they are making stuff up for me to do just so I&#x27;ll be available when real work comes down the pike.<p>I have mixed feelings about this.. on one hand--billable hours. On the other hand--it is not satisfying to do things with absolutely no business value.
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frikabout 11 years ago
<i>Office Space</i> (1999) is a great and rather funny movie about this topic: [7,9 stars on IMDb]<p>* IMDb: <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151804/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.imdb.com&#x2F;title&#x2F;tt0151804&#x2F;</a><p>* Trailer: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IwzZYRejZQ" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=_IwzZYRejZQ</a>
comatose_kidabout 11 years ago
I would read this article but I am busily typing my name over and over into a word document.
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Roboprogabout 11 years ago
Is my job a bullshit job? No, but...<p>I&#x27;m miserably reminded every week when I do my TPS^H^H^H timesheet just what proportion of my job is bullshit activity that I have to get through <i>so that</i> I can get to the part where I am actually going to work on something that will matter to someone. (&quot;Look! I actually spent almost 10 hours this week [designing&#x2F;] writing [&#x2F;testing] code!&quot;) Knowing <i>what</i> needs doing is of course important, but after the third time of hearing it, it&#x27;s time to shut up and go to work, people!<p>So many meetings, so many... (sobs bitterly in corner)
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qwerty_asdfabout 11 years ago
There&#x27;s an aspect of this frustrating, forced busy-work behavior that can get baked into software development, and it isn&#x27;t going away anytime soon.<p>Technology innately gives rise to a behavior called yak shaving, and it&#x27;s not limited to software development, but pretty much any form of technology-related behavior is prone to it, when layers upon layers of technology compound one another and accumulate their own accretion disks of cruft.<p><a href="http://projects.csail.mit.edu/gsb/old-archive/gsb-archive/gsb2000-02-11.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;projects.csail.mit.edu&#x2F;gsb&#x2F;old-archive&#x2F;gsb-archive&#x2F;gs...</a><p>A very simple example is needing anti-freeze to drive a car. If there were no chemical companies producing millions of gallons of anti-freeze a year, and no auto-stores to distibute periphery car necessities, and gas stations, and auto mechanics didn&#x27;t supply anti-freeze, because it&#x27;s beyond the scope of their expertise, how would I produce the right anti-freeze for my car on my own? Well, what <i>are</i> the requirements for producing industrial grade ethylene glycol?<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_glycol" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Ethylene_glycol</a><p>A similar open-source software example would be dependency hell.<p>Just compare the differences in dependencies between two very popular open-source web browsers:<p><a href="http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/web/chromium-browser" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;packages.ubuntu.com&#x2F;trusty&#x2F;web&#x2F;chromium-browser</a><p><a href="http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/web/firefox" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;packages.ubuntu.com&#x2F;trusty&#x2F;web&#x2F;firefox</a><p>In order to accurately compare the two applications, how would you take advantage of the fact that these are open-source projects, and actually review the source code, and then build from source?<p>Each application is built upon many other independent software projects, each sub-project with it&#x27;s own disciplines, specializations and dependencies. It&#x27;s time consuming and painstaking behavior to dig into the source trees for these programs and all their dependencies.<p>How deep can you go before you give up?
hownottowriteabout 11 years ago
For Reference:<p>David Graeber&#x27;s original article: <a href="http://www.strikemag.org/bullshit-jobs/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.strikemag.org&#x2F;bullshit-jobs&#x2F;</a><p>David Graeber&#x27;s Book, &quot;Debt: The First 5,000 Years&quot;: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Debt-First-5-000-Years/dp/1612191290/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Debt-First-5-000-Years&#x2F;dp&#x2F;1612191290&#x2F;</a>
tormehabout 11 years ago
Combine this with how miserable low-rank work like shopping bag packers and store work is, and you have a great clusterfuck of a society.
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jacques_chesterabout 11 years ago
My employers are actually serious about pair programming, so I am easily getting more work done now than I&#x27;ve ever done before.<p>We take lunch, we take breaks, we work fixed hours, but holy moly we also get a helluva lot done every day. It&#x27;s both exhausting and refreshing.
sidcoolabout 11 years ago
I was in Houston for a couple of years in 2011-2012 for a big bank in the capacity of a Software Engineer. The environment there was caustic and anti-relaxation. The people introduced artificial stresses to sound and seem important (mostly to avoid being laid off). There&#x27;s one manager especially who reminded me of a wolf on prowl. He roamed about in the office from time to time and shouted orders arbitrarily at people. Most of them ignored him, but he seemed important to many. I got tired of the constant bickering and unnecessary meetings, left the job.
neoviveabout 11 years ago
This reminds me slightly of the scene in the movie &quot;Office Space&quot; when the consultants were interviewing one of the employees and he was discussing &quot;People Skills&quot;.
acc01about 11 years ago
Relevant short, &quot;el Empleo&quot;: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxUuU1jwMgM" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=cxUuU1jwMgM</a>
Totientabout 11 years ago
The guy I work for really has no idea how easy certain tasks are once you automate them. I have done nothing to correct his misconceptions.<p>(I&#x27;m a CS grad student, working under a professor who somehow got tenure despite being unable to program his way out of a cardboard box. I swear, half of this job is tricking him into thinking I&#x27;m doing his work, so I can focus on doing actual research. ...I really need to find a new advisor.)
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zobzuabout 11 years ago
well they sure have a point. then i work from home (telecommute then) i dont work &quot;as long&quot; but i certainly get much more done AND i am also happier.<p>thats mainly because i dont have to &quot;look busy&quot; or &quot;browse sites for a moment until my brain is able to function decently enough to work again&quot; instead i can go for a job, do the laundry, what not. works much better than sitting on the computer.
torbitabout 11 years ago
Just two weeks ago I was talking to a guy in the military. His government job was to monitor military test taking. At times only 2 people would show up in one day to take a test. He gets paid $20+ an hour. I didn&#x27;t ask how many hours a week he worked, but I got the impression it was his current main job.
noonespecialabout 11 years ago
When all you pay for is butts in the seats, don&#x27;t be surprised if the only thing you get is a bunch of asses.
appreneurabout 11 years ago
I always felt most people in IT offices occur very busy, when their work is harldy any time consuming, just to keep their job, they act busy all the time...I felt this false pretense is the primary reason most people loose confidence in trying new things and being experimental.
Tychoabout 11 years ago
Case in point: last week Barclays bank announced they were laying off 20,000 staff. Share price immediately went up 8%.