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Facebook poaches PayPal president David Marcus to run Messenger

62 pointsby slckfielder08almost 11 years ago

12 comments

tehwebguyalmost 11 years ago
How is it that so many seemingly incredible people come out of PayPal, and PayPal still sucks so much?<p>The all-star list is insane, it keeps growing, and yet PayPal still that can&#x27;t seem to do anything new.
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bmm6oalmost 11 years ago
Maybe I&#x27;m being nit-picky, I wish we would stop using &quot;poaching&quot; to refer to the (legal) hiring of a person already employed at another company. Actual poaching is illegal, conversely anti-&quot;poaching&quot; pacts are collusive and illegal.
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mcintyre1994almost 11 years ago
It&#x27;s interesting that according to the FT article mentioned [0] the license is for Europe - and they&#x27;re talking with UK payments companies. I&#x27;m not sure about the rest of Europe, but in the UK I don&#x27;t imagine a lot of interest - payments are easy by bank transfer. Paying to other European countries isn&#x27;t great via the banks, I imagine most people use something like Paypal now. But I don&#x27;t think international payments are likely to be a big part of Facebook realistically.<p>The license is apparently valid throughout Europe though so maybe other countries have poorer bank transfer systems and this would be better.<p>[0] It&#x27;s paywalled, so techcrunch discussion: <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/14/facebook-emoney-whatsapp-remittance/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;04&#x2F;14&#x2F;facebook-emoney-whatsapp-re...</a> , FT article : <a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0e0ef050-c16a-11e3-97b2-00144feabdc0.html#axzz34BQwTwv1" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ft.com&#x2F;cms&#x2F;s&#x2F;0&#x2F;0e0ef050-c16a-11e3-97b2-00144feabd...</a> , google search for it (dodges paywall) : <a href="https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=facebook+targets+financial+services+site%3Aft.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.co.uk&#x2F;search?q=facebook+targets+financial...</a>
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zaidfalmost 11 years ago
This is a huge, huge loss for PayPal.
philip1209almost 11 years ago
David&#x27;s post announcing the change:<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20140609203227-356899-here-s-to-an-amazing-team-and-to-new-beginnings" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.linkedin.com&#x2F;today&#x2F;post&#x2F;article&#x2F;20140609203227-3...</a>
abraxaszalmost 11 years ago
Genuine question: The article goes on and on about how making the apps paid in developing countries would make more sense than using ads, etc, etc.. Ok, I see the point. But is it really that different from the developed countries? How much do they get per user in advertisement? How much would it cost me if I wanted to opt out of advertisement? I don&#x27;t know if people in general prefer ads, but if I had to pay, say $5 a year for a an ad-free whatsapp, I&#x27;d gladly pay. Is it ridiculously low compare to what they make with ads?
gexlaalmost 11 years ago
Congrats to David Marcus.<p>I&#x27;m kind of bummed to see him doing good things with a product I consider a core part of the services I use and then leave to join a product I don&#x27;t much care for.<p>What&#x27;s great about Paypal is that it&#x27;s good for both business and personal. Facebook is horrible for making that separation. I couldn&#x27;t see myself using Facebook over Paypal. Though most important is the adoption. If it&#x27;s easy and everyone is using it, then I suppose that could change my mind.<p>Good luck to all involved.
Alupisalmost 11 years ago
Seems odd, that a big payment service&#x27;s exec would get poached to head-up a chat service (likely implemented using XMPP).<p>I mean, if FB was serious about chat, wasn&#x27;t there an exec at a chat-focused company that would have been a better fit?<p>Also, why would the President of PayPal leave (his Top-dog position) to take on a head of a mere department at another company? Also seems odd...
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jonathanmarcusalmost 11 years ago
Facebook may be generating significant mobile revenue, but the core Facebook mobile &#x2F; app strategy is suspect. Poke, Home and Paper have all been flops, and it&#x27;s hard to imagine Slingshot faring any better.
kolevalmost 11 years ago
This sounds like a demotion. I personally thought he had a misconduct trying to pump Bitcoin while at the same time fessing up that he owns bitcoins - especially when many perceive Bitcoin as a PayPal competitor.
jacquesmalmost 11 years ago
How long before Facebook will attack paypal on its home turf?<p>They could do a pretty good job of it too, what with facebook knowing who you are (within reason) and who your friends are they could set this up in such a way that they could side-step the biggest problems with payments through paypal.<p>The tell-tale will be when facebook registers as a bank somewhere.<p>Edit: hello downvoter, feel free to disagree a bit more verbosely.
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nonubyalmost 11 years ago
It looks like Rakesh Agrawal was right, Paypal really is washed out.