A wonderful interview. Alan made me realize why I myself wasn't educated in any real sense. Now that I am educated, mostly by him, our two startups and research institute do the right Science and make the right technology (a programming language, an operating system, a user interface, the manycore hardware to run it on and a new internet based on new switch protocol abstractions) and is becoming more successful because of Alan's teachings. I recommend this interview as a starting point for your own education. If you feel like combining such self-education with crazy hard work at our startups implementing Alan's ideas please contact us to help you on your way. I also recommend the two lectures by Alan on our startup home page <a href="http://www.morphle.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.morphle.org</a> . "Is it really complex or did we just make it complicated?" has a demo of the new languages and operating system we implement at Morphle and MetaMorph research.