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Show HN: Artistic Maps of Over 4,000 U.S. Cities

69 pointsby seanlinehanalmost 11 years ago

13 comments

vacrialmost 11 years ago
I don&#x27;t really understand the use of tribal names for the various styles. Does &#x27;shoshone&#x27; really associate with &#x27;garish&#x27;?<p>When using tribal or other demographic names, I&#x27;m always reminded of the argument once put against the Jeep Cherokee: there&#x27;s no such thing as a Ford Caucasian or a Honda Negro. And for fairly obvious reasons. Or, if instead the names were European demonyms, you&#x27;d still have people asking why that colour scheme goes with that name. If it was &#x27;French&#x27; instead of &#x27;Shoshone&#x27;, people would ask &quot;why is this garish scheme associated with them?&quot;. If it was &#x27;Czech&#x27; instead of &#x27;Blackfeet&#x27;, people would be asking why the nighttime colours are associated with that demographic.<p>As far as I can tell - and I could be quite wrong here - the demonyms used have nothing to do with the associated schemes, and are just &#x27;friendly names&#x27;. I&#x27;d find a different naming scheme, where the names semantically matched the colours. For example, Bannock is proposed as a tribute to Warhol, so call it something like &#x27;Warhol&#x27; (though maybe that exact name might also run you into copyright issues... Perhaps &#x27;Soupcan&#x27;?)<p>Also, the reason for the colour scheme should be the first paragraph in the associated blurbs, not the third. The other two paragraphs are boilerplate and inherently less interesting when you&#x27;re looking through the series.
dougmccunealmost 11 years ago
My first guess would be that this is using OSM data, but I didn&#x27;t see any mention of that on the site and didn&#x27;t see any OSM copyright notices on the images. Could one of the creators explain where the map data comes from?
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mturmonalmost 11 years ago
I&#x27;m in your target audience -- I used to have a wall size Thomas Brothers map of LA on my wall, and I have a large map of Southern CA geography there now. But:<p>Why is are most of the color schemes so garish? Did you run these by a designer? I&#x27;d think that many of the LA posters (Blackfeet, crow, Shoshone, Pawnee, even Bannock) are so garish as to be unusable in most rooms.<p>Why is the water the same color as the border?<p>And, you need deeper zoom (at least in selected areas), or I can&#x27;t see what I&#x27;m getting. Within the preview, some indication of the scale of the shown features within a print of a given size would be useful.
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seanlinehanalmost 11 years ago
Hey there,<p>I&#x27;m one of the two creators of Project Jefferson. We&#x27;ll do a full run down of the tech we used to do this some time this week, but I&#x27;m 100% willing to chat about anything to do with the project.<p>We started working on this just a couple weeks ago and are super excited to ship it tonight. If anything breaks or looks wonky, please drop me a line. :)<p>Cheers, Sean
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frewsxcvalmost 11 years ago
Wouldn&#x27;t it be copyright infringement if the printed maps don&#x27;t attribute OSM?
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freehunteralmost 11 years ago
I&#x27;m not understanding how the cities are chosen. For example, Madison, WI (home of a Big 10 university where probably more than a few folks here went to school) is non-existent, but Fitchburg, Middleton, and Sun Prairie, three suburbs of Madison <i>are</i> included. Madison is the second largest city in the state. Just for giggles, I looked up Michigan, and the second largest city (Grand Rapids) is represented even though it&#x27;s a smaller city than Madison.<p>That&#x27;s a somewhat random example from me searching for cities folks here might know, but it&#x27;s certainly odd.
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dnewmsalmost 11 years ago
Here is a similar remix of OSM, that allows you to zoom in and pan, export as .jpg, or embed - for free: <a href="http://maps.stamen.com/#watercolor/12/42.3318/-83.0503" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;maps.stamen.com&#x2F;#watercolor&#x2F;12&#x2F;42.3318&#x2F;-83.0503</a>
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davidwalmost 11 years ago
I typed in &#x27;Eugene, Oregon&#x27; into the search thing and it didn&#x27;t find it. The map does exist though.<p>I actually find having lots of nicely done details is what I like in a map. The super-detailed USGS quads, for instance, are very nice.<p>I&#x27;m also not wild about the native american names, I think they might be a distraction for a lot of people. Maybe you could go with US regions or something.... &quot;northwest&quot;, &quot;southwest&quot;, something like that? Or states?
robszumskialmost 11 years ago
Clever project that shows how access to data, normally behind massive paywalls, can be used for really creative projects that otherwise wouldn&#x27;t exist.
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schmidtcalmost 11 years ago
Your search feature doesn&#x27;t handle &quot;St. Louis&quot; type searches.<p>Searching for &quot;St.&quot; anything returns nil, but searching for &quot;Paul&quot; returns &quot;St. Paul&quot; and others.<p>Otherwise it&#x27;s an interesting exercise.
furyofantaresalmost 11 years ago
I was surprised to see the city I live in (because it&#x27;s small - population 7100) but I guess 4000 cities is a lot, googling shows people estimating 20k cities total in the US.
itafromaalmost 11 years ago
Interesting concept, but it needs curation from people who live in the places it purports to map. Perhaps it&#x27;s just my familiarity with the state, but there is a lot of dubious stuff in the results for New York and it gives a &quot;this is completely automated and maybe not as useful as it could be&quot; vibe.<p>Some background: by law, every part of New York state except New York city is under at least three levels of government: state, county, and town&#x2F;city. Many places have four: a village or city within a town (there&#x27;s even the case of hamlets, which are like villages but do not have their own governments). Frequently, a town will have a village with the same name as the town within its borders, but other villages and hamlets as well.<p>It appears (with one exception that I found, noted below) that villages are being treated as cities for map generation, but this is problematic in New York for two reasons:<p>1. Long Island, being right next to New York City, is incredibly densely populated. All of Nassau County could arguably be considered a single urban core, never mind its constituent towns (and the villages that make up those towns). Hempstead winds up being overrepresented because it looks like every single one of its villages makes it into the list. Hempstead itself shows up, but only the village of the same name that appears within its town.<p>2. Upstate, there are a lot of towns that have villages within them that have the same name. Unless specifically qualified with &quot;the village of,&quot; I&#x27;ve found that people are usually referring to the town. I&#x27;ve found that&#x27;s the case even when referring to a village that doesn&#x27;t have a corresponding town of the same name, but happens to be the main center of that town.<p>For example, I grew up near a village called Washingtonville. I would say I&#x27;m from Washingtonville even though my house wasn&#x27;t technically within the bounds of the village: it was in its town, Blooming Grove. If I&#x27;m looking for a map of Washingtonville, I would expect to see not just the comparatively tiny area incorporated as &quot;the Village of Washingtonville&quot;, but its surrounding area as well. To make matters more confusing, there is a hamlet of Blooming Grove within the town of Blooming Grove as well, but nobody cares about it: I couldn&#x27;t name 3 people would would ever want a map of the hamlet of Blooming Grove.<p>Another example is Wallkill, which is even more confusing. There&#x27;s a town of Wallkill in Orange County: within it, there&#x27;s the city of Middletown. If you&#x27;re from there, you&#x27;re going to say you&#x27;re from Middletown unless speaking to someone from the area who could tell the two apart. There&#x27;s also a <i>hamlet</i> of Wallkill in another county, part of a different town. If someone says they&#x27;re from Wallkill, they&#x27;re probably talking about the hamlet, not the town. You&#x27;d say you&#x27;re from Wallkill (and not the town in which it resides, Shawangunk) because... well, I don&#x27;t know. That&#x27;s the way it&#x27;s always been.<p>Which brings me to the exception I mentioned earlier. Check out the listing for Monroe, NY: <a href="https://www.projectjefferson.com/?city=1804311" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.projectjefferson.com&#x2F;?city=1804311</a><p>Three entities in New York share this name: a town in Orange county, a village within that town, and a county 300 miles northwest of the town that encompasses the city of Rochester and its suburbs. (There is no city of Monroe in New York.) The site shows a map for the county. Presumably, the list being worked off is actually referring to the town, which has a population of ~39,000 and not its village, which only has a population of ~6,000.<p>Part in parcel with Monroe and the confusing town&#x2F;village distinction, Kiryas Joel is listed (<a href="https://www.projectjefferson.com/?city=175464" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.projectjefferson.com&#x2F;?city=175464</a>). Kiryas Joel is a village within the town of Monroe comprising of about half its population. Even though it&#x27;s massive, if you&#x27;re from Kiryas Joel, you say you&#x27;re from Kiryas Joel. But if you&#x27;re from anywhere else within the town of Monroe, you say you&#x27;re from Monroe. This is for cultural reasons: Kiryas Joel is a very insulated village consisting of mainly people of the Hassidic Jewish faith. If you&#x27;re not Hassidic, you wouldn&#x27;t self-identify with it even though it&#x27;s the largest village within the town.<p>This was long, but hopefully it demonstrates some of the perils of taking an automated-only approach to this type of mapping.
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mlinksvaalmost 11 years ago
It is unfortunate that the name of your project honors a slave owner.