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Texas Attorney General Password Rules

13 pointsby valuegramalmost 11 years ago

6 comments

88e282102ae2e5balmost 11 years ago
They&#x27;re not necessarily storing passwords in the clear (though the Texas Secretary of State does[1], so it wouldn&#x27;t surprise me).<p>For example, when updating a password on Facebook, they check to see if your new password is similar to your previous one by creating several variants of the new password, hashing them, and seeing if the hash matches any of your old password hashes.<p>[1] <a href="http://plaintextoffenders.com/post/68152196480/sos-state-tx-us-government-website-businesses" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;plaintextoffenders.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;68152196480&#x2F;sos-state-tx-...</a>
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cpncrunchalmost 11 years ago
Unfortunately these asinine password requirements occur quite often. It&#x27;s basically an indication that the site itself has poor security, and they&#x27;re requiring a strong password to mitigate that risk. Also, if they are storing the password in plain-text, then it doesn&#x27;t really matter how many fucking special characters your users have in their passwords :)<p>Also, users will just write down the password.
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chealdalmost 11 years ago
It&#x27;s kind of a fun working out how many passwords that is.<p>So letters + numbers + 3 special characters. Our first and last positions can&#x27;t be special characters, and we can&#x27;t have the same letters concurrently, so we&#x27;re in the ballpark of:<p>62^2 * 64^6 = 264,157,668,573,184 passwords<p>However, passwords <i>must</i> contain a letter, number, and special character. This means that we can eliminate the entire letters + numbers set, the numbers + specials set, and the letters + specials set:<p>(62^2 * 64^6) - (62 * 61^7) - (10^2 * 12^6) - (52^2 * 54^6) = 2,261,873,997,098 - Did I get that math right?<p>That&#x27;s still a decently large space, but it&#x27;s small enough to be attackable even if the passwords are hashed.
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thyrsusalmost 11 years ago
They&#x27;re storing passwords in the clear, otherwise they wouldn&#x27;t be able to enforce the &quot;cannot be too similar&quot; rule.
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byoung2almost 11 years ago
The EXACTLY 8 characters worries me, because it suggests that they are storing the password in plaintext in an 8 character column.
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IvyMikealmost 11 years ago
&gt; If you have user ID or password problems, use the following address (place in the “To” field) to send an e-mail requesting assistance: websec.adminp@cs.oag.state.tx.us<p>This poor guy.