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U.S. Senate bill proposes sweeping curbs on NSA surveillance

63 pointsby dan_bkalmost 11 years ago

6 comments

juntoalmost 11 years ago
Interesting internet habits you have there Senator.<p>I assume you&#x27;ll be voting against this new bill Senator?
jdp23almost 11 years ago
EFF calls this bill &quot;a real first step because it creates meaningful change to NSA surveillance right now, while paving the way for the public to get more information about what the NSA is doing.&quot; They&#x27;ve got a quick analysis of what it does and doesn&#x27;t do is at [1]<p>Marcy Wheeler sees it as an improvement over the bill the House passed (which isn&#x27;t hard) but isn&#x27;t sure it&#x27;s an improvement over the status quo. See [2] and [3] for her concerns<p>[1] <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/07/new-senate-usa-freedom-act-first-step-towards-reforming-mass-surveillance" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eff.org&#x2F;deeplinks&#x2F;2014&#x2F;07&#x2F;new-senate-usa-freedom...</a><p>[2] <a href="http://www.emptywheel.net/2014/07/29/leahy-freedom-act-permits-fbis-continued-uncounted-use-of-back-door-searches/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.emptywheel.net&#x2F;2014&#x2F;07&#x2F;29&#x2F;leahy-freedom-act-permi...</a><p>[3] <a href="http://www.emptywheel.net/2014/07/29/leahy-usa-freedoms-bulky-corporate-persons/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.emptywheel.net&#x2F;2014&#x2F;07&#x2F;29&#x2F;leahy-usa-freedoms-bulk...</a>
rurbanalmost 11 years ago
Call me unconvinced. It follows entirely the flawed US gov interpretation of &quot;collection&quot;, which means collect everything, and only call it &quot;collect&quot; when if you search through it.<p>How should this convince the global business that using US IT, telecom and cloud services is trustworthy and legally safe? There are still massive holes in a number of public laws and who knows in how many secret laws and interpretations, not talking about illegal practices. Without a 2nd Church Committee nothing will change.
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higherpurposealmost 11 years ago
This is the one that got watered down a lot, right? Which would explain its &quot;wide support&quot;, including from the White House.<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/05/22/why-76-lawmakers-just-voted-against-their-own-bill-to-reform-the-nsa/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;the-switch&#x2F;wp&#x2F;2014&#x2F;05&#x2F;22...</a>
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ipsinalmost 11 years ago
Now we just need legislation that limits the phone company retention of these records to (say) three years.
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patrickdaveyalmost 11 years ago
The article doesn&#x27;t mention it ... but can they still get around it by (what I believe is called) traffic shaping? Where you force the traffic to leave the US, then collect all the &quot;foreign&quot; data, and then send it on its merry way again?