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EMV and Chip cards

41 pointsby excid3almost 11 years ago

9 comments

pzbalmost 11 years ago
This is a great move to help reduce fraud for their US merchants, but even more important is it expands their potential market. Adding a chip reader opens up the rest of the world.<p>However, I&#x27;m still not sure how they will handle the PIN part of Chip and PIN, as the usual requirement is that the PIN is entered on a dedicated Pin Entry Device which then only presents the unlocked smart card to the merchant register.
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wwarrenalmost 11 years ago
As a british immigrant to North America, I couldn&#x27;t believe how far behind in this regard the States and Canada were. Canada has since caught up, but the US is only now getting there.<p>Anecdotal story: the only time my credit card has been defrauded is after a 3 day stay in the USA
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brotchiealmost 11 years ago
I wonder what their plans are for NFC &#x2F; PayPass &#x2F; PayWave? Are there technological barriers to it? Could a NFC enabled Smartphone act as a payment terminal?<p>It&#x27;s only on rare occasions now that I have to even put in a pin (in Australia), NFC style payment terminals are pretty much ubiquitous.<p>NFC payments in 80-90% of stores, many parking machines, &gt;50% of vending machines.
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siskalmost 11 years ago
A couple of data points:<p>American Express sent me a new card—unprovoked—about two months ago that is chipped. As mentioned elsewhere, it is a chip and signature card (as opposed to a chip and pin). I&#x27;m nothing particularly special as a credit card user so, if I received a card, seems the roll out has already well underway.<p>Another point is, as mentioned elsewhere, PayPal already offers a chip and pin compatible bluetooth device in a few countries marketed as part of their PayPal Here brand[0].<p>[0] - <a href="https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/how-to-use-paypal-here" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.paypal.com&#x2F;uk&#x2F;webapps&#x2F;mpp&#x2F;how-to-use-paypal-here</a>
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unwiredbenalmost 11 years ago
It looks like they&#x27;re not able to power strictly off the audio jack anymore with this tech. The product brief indicates that it uses a MicroUSB charging connector. I wonder how many transactions a single charge can handle.
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prattbhattalmost 11 years ago
Seems they want to sell the EMV card readers instead of providing them for free.
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stuaxoalmost 11 years ago
Can&#x27;t imagine not using these ... the only problem is the cards are weaker and the chip starts to come out.<p>(Only if you don&#x27;t use a wallet)...
foobarquxalmost 11 years ago
And still no NFC.
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powertoweralmost 11 years ago
After reading the wikipedia article on this, these cards seems to be full of fallback mechanisms that make them virtually useless for more advanced protection but in only a few constrained situations, and it&#x27;s biggest benefit is that it allows MasterCard and the others to shift liability of fraud from the Bank to the merchant and the customer.
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