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Microsoft Has Nearly $93B in Overseas Cash

45 pointsby cl8tonover 10 years ago

9 comments

cpursleyover 10 years ago
This is a good case why the US should lower corporate taxes to a rate that is competitive with other jurisdictions, or just get rid of them all-together. Corporations don't actually pay taxes even when they do; it's the consumers who pay for them in the form of increased prices (tax is just passed on as an expense). Better to collect the tax at time of sale (VAT) - perhaps on a sliding scale.
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ryandrakeover 10 years ago
I wish I could use the same shenanigans that these companies get away with using to avoid paying their taxes. I could just imagine my conversation with the IRS:<p>&quot;No, no, no, IRS, you don&#x27;t understand! My employer didn&#x27;t hire me. They hired my fictitious doppleganger who lives in the Bahamas, where there&#x27;s no income tax. I license my name and know-how to him for a monthly fee. My invisible clone then does all the work remotely and earns the pay check. But, since we&#x27;re really the same person, he should be able to transfer those earnings here to me tax free! Why should I have to wait for a tax holiday to use all this money? It&#x27;s so unfair!!!&quot;<p>These companies pulling this B.S. need to man up and pay their taxes like the rest of us.
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hkmurakamiover 10 years ago
As usual, this is the key takeaway, imo:<p><i>&quot;None of this is illegal. Far from it. A corporation owes it to its shareholders to keep its tax bill as small as possible.&quot;</i>
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ronnierover 10 years ago
&gt;Apple reported it had $137.7 billion in offshore accounts. The CTJ report also found that Cisco had $48 billion, HP had $38 billion, Google nearly $39 billion, and Oracle $26 billion offshore
djlocheover 10 years ago
Perhaps this is another incentive to start&#x2F;incorporate companies in countries where larger companies have large cash piles and low taxes where a higher priced acquisition might happen compared to what would happen in the United States. I&#x27;m not sure, but Skype could be a good example here.
zzleeperover 10 years ago
Don&#x27;t they have to bring it back at some point if they want to pay that as dividends? (i.e. if the shareholders want that money?)<p>Or are they counting on an eventual tax break on repatriations?
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nlhover 10 years ago
I know this is oversimplified and there are unintended consequences I haven&#x27;t considered, but:<p>Seems like a tax holiday, structured with the right incentives (ie X% must be invested in US-based stuff .. Real estate, jobs, etc.) would be a win for everyone. Politicians get an economic stimulus that doesn&#x27;t directly cost taxpayers money from the budget&#x2F;treasury, and the companies get to bring back that foreign $$ at a reduced rate.
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dataminerover 10 years ago
Is it possible for shareholders to force corporations to repatriate money back to US?
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mikehcover 10 years ago
LOLed at Tim Cook&#x27;s photo on the article.