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How the Napa Earthquake Affected Bay Area Sleepers

188 pointsby ismavisover 10 years ago

16 comments

antrover 10 years ago
The fact that Jawbone has this information on their users (yes, I know they say it's aggregated and "anonymised" data) is pretty scary to me. In my opinion, this data should only be visible to each user, and no one else. I really doubt Jawbone users are aware that their UP devices are sending data to third-parties... it feels like 21st century shackles.
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camillomillerover 10 years ago
Am I the only one that's finding a bit upsetting the fact that a single overlooking identity could dispose of people's data like that? I know, I know: all the Up wearers have "enrolled" voluntarily, but I wonder if they really like to be part of a giant anonymous data science experiment. If you can do this with the users' data, you can certainly do the same for more profit-related purposes. Or maybe it's just me, sometimes I just can't ignore the scary within the scientifically cool.
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zaiusover 10 years ago
Interesting data. Some things that jumped out at me:<p>1. Apparently everyone in Santa Cruz goes to bed early and gets up early.<p>2. I would have expected bigger jumps on the hour. Maybe I&#x27;m the only one that sets my alarm on the hour though.<p>3. Why would there be dips in the AM? People hitting snooze perhaps?<p>4. How long do you have to moving for UP to think you&#x27;re awake? How long do you have to be still for the UP to think you&#x27;re asleep?
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jobigoudover 10 years ago
It&#x27;s unfortunate but almost all Quantified Self devices work like this. You have to go through the device provider website to see your data.<p>I wish there existed more engineer-friendly initiatives where you can install the data collection server, data store and analysis server on machines you control.
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dohertyjfover 10 years ago
In response to antr and others talking about how this is &quot;private&quot; data, a few things:<p>1) Jawbone is a data company. You get what you want from them by giving them your data. Giving them your data is your choice, so if you are uncomfortable with it then you should not have a Jawbone. 2) What&#x27;s interesting about this article is that it&#x27;s in aggregate, across a statistically significant (so they say) number of people in these areas. They&#x27;re not looking at individual stats, and I would bet would have a hard time tracing it back to a single person&#x2F;name&#x2F;etc, if they&#x27;re even allowed to store it that way (not sure, but it would surprise me if they did).<p>If you don&#x27;t like your data being stored somewhere, why are you even on HackerNews? You know your data is being stored here and being learned from.
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chrismorganover 10 years ago
Here I am, a resident of Melbourne, Australia, where we never get interesting earthquakes, visiting SF for the first time (staying in Belmont) and they don’t even wake me for the earthquake they evidently put on for my benefit.
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morschover 10 years ago
How useful do you find the sleep tracking to be? I&#x27;ve been using it for a couple of days now and I&#x27;m on the fence whether a simple movement tracker can really tell whether I&#x27;m in a deep or light sleep phase...
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thawkinsover 10 years ago
Who else finds this as creepy as hell.
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dredmorbiusover 10 years ago
Since Jawbone apparently don&#x27;t know how to post a simple image for old-school browsers: <a href="http://blogs-images.forbes.com/dandiamond/files/2014/08/Jawbone.png" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blogs-images.forbes.com&#x2F;dandiamond&#x2F;files&#x2F;2014&#x2F;08&#x2F;Jawb...</a><p>And for those who&#x27;ve noted that the NSA are going to have all the cool data, after seeing this chart, I&#x27;m pretty sure they&#x27;ll start tapping into Jawbone as well.
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bonchibujiover 10 years ago
Google Cache - <a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8rhxYGx-uJcJ:https://jawbone.com/blog/napa-earthquake-effect-on-sleep/+&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=fi" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:8rhxYGx...</a>
mjsover 10 years ago
A map version of this (with contour lines for percentage awoken) would be nice. This would also eliminate the small differences in the time people in different areas seem to go to sleep and rise.
lingcover 10 years ago
Very cool!<p>The text says that 93% of the Napa area woke up, but the graphs shows 74%. I&#x27;m assuming the graph is off?
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batbombover 10 years ago
Maybe more interesting is that Santa Cruz&#x2F;Modesto people are early to bed&#x2F;early to rise.
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prawnover 10 years ago
Link currently leads to a 404.
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sschuellerover 10 years ago
Serious question:<p>I wonder if they can track how many people die per year and differentiate between type (car, earthquake etc.).
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jobigoudover 10 years ago
&quot;All results are statistically significant.&quot;<p>Isn&#x27;t this an overly optimistic claim? Surely people using a sleep tracking device do not form an unbiased sample of the general population when it comes to sleep patterns?
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