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Engineering a Better Alarm Clock

29 pointsby sdpover 15 years ago

16 comments

rfreytagover 15 years ago
Maybe he has sleep apnea: <a href="http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/dci/Diseases/SleepApnea/SleepApnea_WhatIs.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/dci/Diseases/SleepApnea/Slee...</a><p>This would mean no matter how much sleep, it's never enough.<p>By the way, there is considerable evidence that a significant number of ADHD cases in children and adults is really due to poor sleep with apnea being a major factor (<a href="http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/sleep-apnea/news/20060821/sleep-apnea-kids-brain-power" rel="nofollow">http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/sleep-apnea/news/200608...</a>).
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avinashvover 15 years ago
While I have never gone through this much effort to wake up in the morning--although, reasonably costed, this would be a product I would consider purchasing--I can understand this guy's pain. I think he is a little worse than I am, since it only takes me 5 minutes out of bed before I won't go back, but those 5 minutes can seem like a whole day sometimes.<p>I think a lot of people who have good early-morning discipline don't appreciate how truly difficult it is for someone who just cannot. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that your brain might just not be wired for learning discipline in that condition.
catch23over 15 years ago
I think the fundamental problem with waking up has little to do with the power of the alarm clock. If the alarm clock could detect the sleep cycle pattern, it could wake you up when you're not in REM sleep so that you wouldn't wake up groggy.<p>When you get into a very rigid sleeping schedule, the REM cycles are more rigid as well and you'll tend to wake up less groggy since you're able to position your REM sleep cycles away from the wake up time. Waking up properly also doesn't require a clock that runs away from you.<p>So there's 2 ways to solve it: get a smart alarm clock that can predict/measure your sleep level, or fit yourself into a rigid sleep schedule for a long time so that your body adjusts to it.
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anigbrowlover 15 years ago
<i>…or, just get a wife.</i><p>This hack only works with a spouse of opposite polarity. If you select for compatibility, then you will amplify the existing patterns of staying up late and turning off the alarm.<p>Now a baby, on the other hand...
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jkmcfover 15 years ago
I've tried the <a href="http://www.sleeptracker.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sleeptracker.com/</a>, but it was the first version having the stupid button on the face, which inevitably meant tossing and turning would disable it. Other than that, it was pretty good.<p>The new versions seem better, but I'm not going to sink $180 to find out.
pmichaudover 15 years ago
Interesting, but seriously, wouldn't it be easier to take some time to learn self-discipline, even while groggy?<p>Alternatively, go to bed earlier so you wke up at a decent time on your own. I wake up between 5:30 and 6 am every morning without an alarm. That's because I go to bed when I'm tired.
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HeyLaughingBoyover 15 years ago
<i>The obvious solution is to get a wife</i><p>I tried that, but it didn't help. If we wake up early/on time, we end up just having sex and falling back asleep. If we wake up late, she decides that since I'm going to be late for work anyway, we may as well have sex, then I fall back asleep again!<p>If this keeps up, the only solution is divorce :-)
gwernover 15 years ago
One random idea for getting up in the morning I've wanted to try is an elevated bed which goes into freefall (and presumably repeats until stopped) - the idea being that freefall evokes a panic response which completely bypasses any conscious rationalizations or impulses.
Luffover 15 years ago
I hate having to wake up on mornings but love music. This is how I solved it:<p>I have installed the linux-dist openwrt on my Asus WL-500g Deluxe router. This router has two USB-ports to which I have connected an USB-soundcard and a 80gig 2.5 hard-drive. On the device I have installed Music Player Daemon which makes it possible to play music by controlling it either by php, or a MPD-client.<p>The client I'm using is a modified version of Pmix for my android phone. It's open-source, so downloaded it and added an alarm feature. Before turning of the light I set the time and select which albums it should play.<p>Works like a charm!
DarrenMillsover 15 years ago
I've always wondered why they don't build alarm clocks based on sleep cycles? We sleep best in 45min REM cycles, and waking up in the middle makes you feel groggy. When setting the alarm there should be a dial that has sleep-cycles printed on it, and you turn the dial to select how many you want. The clock will read what time the alarm would wake you up as you select each setting. Select as many cycles as you can get, while still getting up on time. Then simply tell the clock how long you take to fall asleep.
cakeover 15 years ago
My main problem with waking up is not to get up, you'll have to do it at some point anyway. It has more to do with the alarm clock in itself, I sometimes wake up with the choc of the alarm sound. The strident noise catches me by surprise while sleeping and it produces a boost of adrenaline which I would love to avoid.<p>I pretty convinced that a very progressive and friendly sound as an alarm sound would work great.<p>Does anyone have any experience with such an alarm clock ?
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paul7986over 15 years ago
For me I use my work (<a href="http://sleep.fm" rel="nofollow">http://sleep.fm</a>) to wake up to and I leave my mac mini on so i have to get up, walk across room, turn monitor on &#38; stop the alarm.<p>I don't share this fellow hackers pain(more so waking up got easier after getting into a 9 to 5 routine), but I do wonder how huge of a pain point this is? How many face this same problem and if you do, how old are you? thnx if you share!
erikwiffinover 15 years ago
I don't have his problem, but I still think an alarm clock with weight sensors on my bed is an awesome idea. In much the same way that having lights that turn on when you enter a room is cool, having an alarm that turns off when you get up is something I can get behind.
crackiover 15 years ago
Most awesome project i've ever seen!<p>I have the same problems with getting up in the morning. It's mostly lack of sleep, I think. I just can't get myself to go to sleep early enough... perhaps a sleep schedule with 2+ sleep phases would suit me better?
pratover 15 years ago
One of my previous roommates wouldn't wake up if there was a garbage truck inside the room. Nothing short of hitting him would do the trick. That's another idea for an alarm clock.
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huhertoover 15 years ago
While we are in the topic. It is not too difficult to me wake up in the mornings, but why do I get sleepy after lunch? Does it have to do with my diet?
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