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Berg is shutting down

88 pointsby mopokeover 10 years ago

18 comments

zizzerover 10 years ago
I wondered when this might happen. You can&#x27;t really rely on any of these devices with a &#x27;cloud&#x27; based backend to work a couple of years after you&#x27;ve bought them (As anyone with a Nabaztag gathering dust in a corner will tell you).<p>I made my own version of the little printer based on the open source plans here: <a href="https://github.com/exciting-io/printer/wiki/Making-your-own-printer" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;exciting-io&#x2F;printer&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Making-your-own-...</a><p>It&#x27;s really easy to get up and running and interfacing with it is simple. I have mine print out reminders for when to plant seeds for the garden and it also notifies me when automated downloads via FlexGet have finished.
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benoliver999over 10 years ago
One of those things I always convinced myself I really wanted, but the fear of the cloud service going down put me off dropping the cash. £200 for a device that&#x27;s useless if the business went under was not my cup of tea.
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jkestnerover 10 years ago
Berg has for a while explored speculative product experiences in the vein of Dunne &amp; Raby (1) - though being design consultants, Berg&#x27;s work tends to be optimistic. D&amp;R embrace the dystopian aspects of future products, and I think they&#x27;d enjoy this conversation that&#x27;s cropped up around what happens when connected objects lose their parents. (Especially when the objects are personified!) Hopefully Berg appreciates their inadvertent final contribution as well.<p>Does the Internet of Things need a federated model to be as trustworthy and successful as Internet classic?<p>1. <a href="http://www.dunneandraby.co.uk/content/home" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dunneandraby.co.uk&#x2F;content&#x2F;home</a>
purephaseover 10 years ago
First I&#x27;ve heard that Haitian proverb (&quot;Behind the mountains, there are more mountains.&quot;). Very appropriate for this community.
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gioeleover 10 years ago
Did anybody reverse engineer the Berg&#x2F;Little printer protocols? OK, I have found this from 2013, not very detailed though: <a href="https://github.com/pipt/little-printer-payload-inspector" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;pipt&#x2F;little-printer-payload-inspector</a><p>It think the printer&#x27;s form factor is very nice, much much nicer than the other hacked-up solutions I have seen around.<p>I would pay those £149 for a thermal printer that was so cute and also completely open.
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salgernonover 10 years ago
I hadn&#x27;t heard of this before but it doesn&#x27;t seem dissimilar to the adafruit internet of things printer. No &quot;cloud&quot; to speak of - you consume web services via scripts run on the raspberry pi.<p><a href="http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2012/02/21/new-product-adafruit-iot-printer-project-pack-internet-of-things-printer/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.adafruit.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2012&#x2F;02&#x2F;21&#x2F;new-product-adafruit...</a>
brazzyover 10 years ago
I did a small exploratory project using it, and my takeaway was that it was a solution in search of a problem, at least the Cloud aspect, which did absolutely nothing useful, other than sparing you from setting up your own endpoints, but in exchange your had to deal with a really limited (and limiting) API and a more complex infrastructure.
tomahonyover 10 years ago
I&#x27;m not surprised. I was really excited when I heard about this device and although it seemed like a bit of a novelty, I really wanted to try it out. Then I saw the price - $260. I understand you are paying for added value and well thought out design, but $260 was an insane price for a niche product like this
jbergstroemover 10 years ago
Square or similar should pick this stuff up. The personality the Little Printer exhibited was a refreshing (and for me, important) distinction. Not saying that they should put it out there 1:1, but there&#x27;s a lot to learn in how this thing was made, branded and communicated.<p>For me, this wouldn&#x27;t then just be a receipt printer -- you could just as well have it push the &quot;opposite&quot; direction. It&#x27;s essentially a straight tunnel to a specific business or person from its maker. &quot;Here&#x27;s your daily summary&quot;, &quot;Sara from London just asked about shipment costs&quot;. Push notifications to phones does that too, but sans this - for the lack of a better word - bond. For the right business, it feels like a very interesting point of difference.
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jedcover 10 years ago
That happened quickly! They just raised $1.3m eleven months ago:<p><a href="http://blog.bergcloud.com/2013/10/28/berg-raises-1-3m-round-launch-berg-cloud/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.bergcloud.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;10&#x2F;28&#x2F;berg-raises-1-3m-round-...</a>
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eddierogerover 10 years ago
I&#x27;m not sure why we&#x27;re surprised to see functionality disappear from online-tethered services when it&#x27;s been happening in other arenas for years now - most visibly, online gaming. The oldest example I can come up with offhand (because it&#x27;s the Dreamcast&#x27;s birthday) is Phantasy Star Online. That game was fun, but really only as fun as it could be played online, and the servers have been off for a long time now. EA has started turning off servers for old games in the same way. This shutdown is a shame, but hardly unexpected, especially given how niche Little Printer was.
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deutroniumover 10 years ago
I&#x27;ve not heard of Berg before, just having a quick look on their front page, shows its hardware to connect an embedded system to wifi to their cloud.<p>Isn&#x27;t this a big worry if you&#x27;re using anyone else&#x27;s cloud service for your own embedded hardware.<p>Interestingly other platforms exist that perform similar functionality using the same WIFI chip Ti CC3000 (such as Spark Core). There seems to be a number of new chips from china which look to potentially give Ti, a run for its money, such as the ESP8266.
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tylerlhover 10 years ago
Crap -- I have a Little Printer still in the box that I&#x27;ve been meaning to play with. Really hope they open source the protocol so I don&#x27;t end up with a Little Paperweight.
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wavesumover 10 years ago
I think the biggest problem is that they assumed that people would like to have this disposable bite-sized information internet spews at us printed on physical medium instead of being displayed in some corner of a screen somewhere where it belongs. The kind of stuff that will be irrelevant after you&#x27;ve read it once. Not economic. Cute thing though. I give you that.
ndrakeover 10 years ago
Looks like they plan to open source the Little Printer backend (if it&#x27;s not sold).<p><a href="http://littleprinterblog.tumblr.com/post/97047976103/the-future-of-little-printer" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;littleprinterblog.tumblr.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;97047976103&#x2F;the-fut...</a>
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antehtover 10 years ago
Sad to see that they&#x27;re closing down, but understandably a nieche area of business. The Little Printer was such a cute piece of tech, and I&#x27;m sure that they could&#x27;ve done a lot if not this fate was upon them.
namplaaover 10 years ago
I would be in favor of opening the code., especially if it was opened as FOSS
risover 10 years ago
Hooray for cloud-tethered devices!
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