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TSA's X-Ray Nude Body Scanners Output 50% More Radiation Than Admitted to by TSA

160 pointsby tsaoutourpantsover 10 years ago

10 comments

DanielStraightover 10 years ago
So apparently the TSA says: &quot;Each full body scan produces less than 10 microrem of emission, the equivalent to the exposure each person receives in about 2 minutes of airplane flight at altitude.&quot;<p>And the author says the dose is really 14.76 microrem, but doesn&#x27;t dispute the equivalence to flight time. So really it&#x27;s equivalent to <i>3</i> minutes of flight, not just 2.<p>50% of trivial is still trivial.<p>Oh, and the author says that the margin of error on these measurements is large. So perhaps the TSA didn&#x27;t lie at all, they just measured 10 microrem. Even if the margin of error is 1000% the result is still trivial.<p>So... basically this is non-news about a technology which isn&#x27;t even in use anymore. The TSA now uses millimeter wave technology as the author is aware (&quot;these backscatter x-rays are decommissioned and sitting in a warehouse&quot;).<p>There are a lot of good reasons to be concerned about the TSA&#x27;s use of imaging technology. This is not one of them.
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mark_l_watsonover 10 years ago
I don&#x27;t want to get too down on the TSA corporation since their public facing staff have always been polite and pleasant enough to interact with. I always opt out, so I have to get searched, but they are polite about it.<p>That said, I don&#x27;t like it that TSA staff don&#x27;t wear radiation badges, at least I haven&#x27;t noticed any. One lady working for TSA, at the backscatter device, was very pregnant and I wondered about the radiation hazard for her, if any.
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uptownover 10 years ago
I opt out every time, but I&#x27;d hate to be one of the TSA employees standing next to these machines day-in and day-out for hours on end.
kolevover 10 years ago
I&#x27;ve always opted out, but they (on purpose?) make you wait and get nervous about your belongings. Sometimes I&#x27;ve waited 15 minutes for the pad down guy to show up and my stuff was unattended all this time.
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bnolsenover 10 years ago
The bigger problem are the TSA agents operating the scanners. They are constantly getting exposed to these machines during their workshift. I think that&#x27;s the biggest upcoming &quot;disaster&quot; surrounding these lame ineffective scanners.
ben0x539over 10 years ago
150% of &quot;not worth mentioning&quot; is still not worth mentioning.
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jstalinover 10 years ago
I travel a lot and I haven&#x27;t seen these machines in a while. I thought they were all phased out in favor of the radio-wave types.<p>Regardless, I always opt out too.
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tedchsover 10 years ago
The &quot;body scanners&quot; do not use X-rays. They use millimeter waves, which are totally different. Most importantly, millimeter waves are non-ionizing and therefore safe, unlike X-rays.
crystalnover 10 years ago
Unworthy of hacker news:<p>- Inflammatory headline irrelevant to content (&quot;Nude&quot; Body Scanners)<p>- 50% more than an insignificant amount of radiation is still insignificant, and likely difficult to measure precisely. The idea that the TSA would &quot;lie&quot; about this is silly.<p>- I&#x27;m not a fan of the TSA, however inflammatory articles are not what I look for on HN.
autism_hurtsover 10 years ago
Opt out. Just opt out, every single time.<p>I&#x27;ve flown every month this year, sometimes multiple times. I opt out every single time.<p>More irritating is the randomness of metal detectors vs. scanners. It&#x27;s the luck of the draw.
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