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Carl Icahn Says Apple Is Massively Undervalued

15 pointsby cyphersanctusover 10 years ago

11 comments

npalliover 10 years ago
Michael Dell after his experience with Carl Icahn [1] and the bitter battle to take his company private.<p>“It’s a big poker game to him [Carl Icahn],” says Dell. “It’s not about the customers. It’s not about the people. It’s not about changing the world. He doesn’t give a crap about any of that. He didn’t know whether we made nuclear power plants or French fries. He didn’t care.”<p><a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/connieguglielmo/2013/10/30/you-wont-have-michael-dell-to-kick-around-anymore/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;connieguglielmo&#x2F;2013&#x2F;10&#x2F;30&#x2F;you-w...</a>
sgnelsonover 10 years ago
You should read this as &quot;Carl Icahn wants to pump and dump Apple Stock.&quot;
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salimmadjdover 10 years ago
You should read how Icahn destroyed TWA [1] before believing a word he says.<p>[1] <a href="http://blog.pmarca.com/2014/03/18/when-carl-icahn-ran-a-company-the-story-of-twa/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.pmarca.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;03&#x2F;18&#x2F;when-carl-icahn-ran-a-comp...</a>
fleitzover 10 years ago
Carl: Hmm... I think I should sell my apple shares... but who would buy them all...?<p>Carl: I know, I&#x27;ll get apple to buy my shares!
metaphormover 10 years ago
he&#x27;s so full of it. he wants a stock buyback program to boost his own shares valuation. that&#x27;s all. this guy is a scam artist.
andrewriceover 10 years ago
He&#x27;s expressed this sentiment before, and has been pressing Apple to expand its stock buyback program since he first invested in the company. See this 2013 article from Bloomberg: <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-13/carl-icahn-discloses-large-stake-in-apple-in-tweet.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2013-08-13&#x2F;carl-icahn-disclose...</a>
lotsofmangosover 10 years ago
<i>promising that if Apple heeds his advice, he won’t sell off any of his approximately 53 million shares.</i><p>If he really thinks the stock is undervalued, why would he sell in the absence of a share buyback anyway? If he is right then surely he should be buying those shares himself and waiting as the buyback would only be bringing forward a rise, not creating it.
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chollida1over 10 years ago
I think this is a much better url as it has the actual letter that the article is based on.<p><a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/carl-icahn-apple-letter-2014-10" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;carl-icahn-apple-letter-2014-...</a><p>To be fair to him, he&#x27;s not the only person who thinks apple should be doing more with their cash:<p><a href="http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/11/21/hedge-fund-manager-david-einhorn-still-thinks-apple-should-do-more-with-its-cash" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;appleinsider.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;13&#x2F;11&#x2F;21&#x2F;hedge-fund-manager...</a><p>I&#x27;m sure most people have heard about Icahn. But if not check out his Wikipedia page to see a list of investments he&#x27;s gone activist on: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Icahn" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Carl_Icahn</a><p>The guy is an interesting man. His most recent endeavor was to prop up the company herbalife. <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-22/icahn-makes-234-million-as-ackman-fails-with-herbalife.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2014-07-22&#x2F;icahn-makes-234-mil...</a><p>He sure isn&#x27;t the kind of hedge fund manager that sits behind a desk and stares at his Bloomberg terminal all day:)<p>The man is 78, and worth 23 billion and he&#x27;s still picking fights, I hope I have that kind of energy when I get that old, maybe not the fight picking part:)<p><i></i>EDIT<i></i> to be clear, I&#x27;m not making a judgement on his character or if he&#x27;s a net positive to the market. You may see him as good or bad.
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q2over 10 years ago
I wonder if Tim Cook really reads that lengthy letter or some legal expert will just summarize the content. TL;DR version might be helpful.
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wil421over 10 years ago
Maybe he can schedule a takeover then start selling off their assets. Then move to take the company private again.
anonbankerover 10 years ago
I might be in the minority here, but I want to see Icahn pump-and-dump Apple. Now that Jobs is gone, there is nobody running the ship that is competent enough to stop Icahn. He&#x27;ll devalue the company, and bleed it dry if allowed, just like he&#x27;s trying to do with eBay right now. And this makes me happy as a clam; Now that Microsoft is steadily marching toward irrelevance, it&#x27;d be peachy keen if we could take down the usurper to that throne (Apple), and give the GNU&#x2F;Linux and BSD families the attention they rightfully deserve.<p>Could you imagine? if Icahn bled Apple to death, Ubuntu would be the 800lb Gorilla.