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32 pointsby hxrtsover 10 years ago

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throwaway283719over 10 years ago
There&#x27;s an undercurrent of meaning over at Nanex that says that when these unusual-looking patterns appear, they are because some bad actor is doing something naughty, like manipulating the market.<p>The reality is that most of these patterns fall into one of the following categories -<p>(a) Test patterns (e.g. checking that your orders are appearing in the market data) which are normally done at times of very low liquidity.<p>(b) Software bugs (this is probably the vast majority). This might not be a &quot;bug&quot; as such, but an edge case of an algorithm that nobody has thought much about before. Writing robust order placement algorithms is surprisingly difficult.<p>(c) Positive feedback loops, where you detect and react to your own orders in the market data.<p>(d) Unanticipated interactions between two or more algorithms.<p>Of these, (a) is mostly benign, (b) and (c) can be actively harmful, and (d) can go either way. None of them are generally beneficial.<p>Real market manipulation doesn&#x27;t look &quot;weird&quot; like this because people doing it are taking care to make it look like they&#x27;re not manipulating the market. For example, they might spoof with a large order quite deep in the book (which wouldn&#x27;t change the best bid and offer at all) or layer orders at multiple levels.<p>It&#x27;s actually quite difficult to spot this kind of behaviour in market data, even if you spend your whole day watching algorithms trading.<p>On the other hand, it&#x27;s easy to spot unusual-looking activity in categories (a)-(d) above, which is why Nanex is full of that kind of chart.
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azmentheover 10 years ago
I would totally buy that book for my coffee table