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OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

405 pointsby Braaschover 10 years ago

27 comments

smutticusover 10 years ago
None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics.<p>I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it&#x27;s the only relevant question for me. Given Apple&#x27;s track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that. I want a review to actually explore this angle as opposed to simply talking about features that honestly mean nothing to me.
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sxatesover 10 years ago
What&#x27;s missing here for me is some kind of performance evaluation. If I upgrade my 2011 MBA from Mavericks to Yosemite, should I expect any change in performance, for better or worse? Did the power management change in any significant way?<p>Apple&#x27;s mobile OSs have a way of obsoleting older hardware. I&#x27;m curious to know if their desktop OSs are trending that way as well, or if they&#x27;re making performance gains instead.
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Osmiumover 10 years ago
Somebody asked in another thread about Yosemite&#x27;s new Hypervisor:<p>&quot;Hypervisor (Hypervisor.framework). The Hypervisor framework allows virtualization vendors to build virtualization solutions on top of OS X without needing to deploy third-party kernel extensions (KEXTs). Included is a lightweight hypervisor that enables virtualization of the host CPUs.&quot;<p>Any news on if anyone is actually using this yet? Stability matters a lot more to me than raw performance in VMs, so I&#x27;d be very keen to know if Parallels&#x2F;Fusion&#x2F;VirtualBox have adopted this--assuming that it would actually improve stability or, if not, what the pros&#x2F;cons are for using Apple&#x27;s own Hypervisor over a third party&#x27;s.<p><a href="https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/mac/releasenotes/MacOSX/WhatsNewInOSX/Articles/MacOSX10_10.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.apple.com&#x2F;library&#x2F;prerelease&#x2F;mac&#x2F;releaseno...</a>
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wiremineover 10 years ago
Off topic from the review but handy since people were talking about crashing:<p>Learned a cool trick tonight: Yosemite was taking a while to install, so I did some googling and learned you can see the installer&#x27;s log by typing CMD-L during the install process.
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dutchbritover 10 years ago
I really don&#x27;t like the new design. The dock bar looks weird to name one thing, also the new buttons, bars and the window design is just ugly and plain (it feels like a Linux flavour trying to look like OS X designed by someone&#x27;s neighbour&#x27;s kid) - don&#x27;t let me even mention the folder icons. Photoshop stalled once but that&#x27;s the only quirck I&#x27;ve had in the past 2 weeks of using the beta so that&#x27;s not too bad. Design wise however, I don&#x27;t feel like this is a good replacement. Have to admit that iOS 7 did grow on me and I felt the same about that back then but I don&#x27;t think the same will happen in this case.
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tloover 10 years ago
If you want to do a fresh install, you can create a USB install drive: <a href="http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/10/how-to-make-your-own-bootable-os-x-10-10-yosemite-usb-install-drive/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;apple&#x2F;2014&#x2F;10&#x2F;how-to-make-your-own-bo...</a>
mlexover 10 years ago
&quot;...If Retina desktop Macs still haven’t been announced by the time you read this, Apple had better hurry up.&quot;<p>Near the bottom of page 3, just thought it was funny considering today&#x27;s 5K iMac announcement.
locomocoover 10 years ago
Anyone know how to turn off the Macbook pro screen with the lid open while using external monitors? On Mavericks this worked just fine:<p><a href="http://gizmodo.com/5938452/a-trick-to-make-using-an-external-monitor-with-your-macbook-way-better" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;gizmodo.com&#x2F;5938452&#x2F;a-trick-to-make-using-an-external...</a><p>Now no dice... anyone know a way to keep the screen off with the lid open?<p>To execute in Terminal:<p>sudo nvram boot-args=&quot;iog=0x0&quot;<p>To undo in Terminal:<p>sudo nvram -d boot-args<p>Once you type it into terminal I believe you need to enter your password. I then restart my machine. Now the TRICK is to either restart your machine with the lid already closed (hit restart then slam the lid!) OR turn the machine on for the first time (then quickly slam the lid!) once you are past the login screen you can open the lid.
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dopameanover 10 years ago
The upgrade to Mavericks totally borked my Displaylink adapter that I use to plug an extra monitor in. After some updates its finally stable but still not great. I&#x27;m afraid to upgrade again because who knows what will happen.
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cdbattagsover 10 years ago
I actually read this all the way through... Quality writing.
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tehabeover 10 years ago
I tried it yesterday and for the first time I downgraded my Mac back to the previous version. I think Yosemite wasn&#x27;t made for my 2009 MacBook Pro. It works w&#x2F;o a problem but the font is really hard to read, in the sense it is an exhausting experience.<p>What is funny about Yosemite, many dialog boxes remind me of KDE.
72deluxeover 10 years ago
Very informative review, particularly the part regarding Swift towards the end, although I did feel like he was going over the changes in a perfunctory manner as opposed to the Mavericks review.<p>Anyway, it did help me know what to expect in Yosemite so thanks John.<p>I also discovered the &quot;purple&quot; full screen button from yesteryear - I much prefer that to the fullscreen arrows in Mavericks, and dislike the new default &quot;FULLSCREEN&quot; behaviour of the zoom button. Fullscreen makes the menubar and all that sits in it (MenuMeters, clock etc) useless. On a laptop, the indicator about the battery is kind of important to me, and I don&#x27;t find the clock distracting or require it to be removed in order to help me read text on other parts of the screen. I think it is a foolish move.
l33tfr4gg3rover 10 years ago
I&#x27;m on a 2013 MBP and I upgraded to Yosemite yesterday. It was a textbook upgrade for me - zero hassle and everything works just as it should (so far anyway). A couple of quirks I&#x27;ve noticed vs. Mavericks is that a) the animations seem to stutter sometimes - I almost never had that with Mavericks. Perhaps since this is 10.10.0 that&#x27;s to be expected but hope they fix that to buttery smooth in the performance update down the road. The other thing is RAM usage seems to have gone up significantly. I used to average around 2-3 GB used out of 8GB and now I find 5GB used - I haven&#x27;t installed any additional software or tweaked any configuration settings - this is purely a Mavericks --&gt; Yosemite in-place upgrade. Its still early hours so I&#x27;ve yet to explore the system fully, but apart from these 2 things it seems fairly solid so far. Contrary to the other comments, I don&#x27;t quite seem to mind the full screen mechanics, although I would not have minded a &#x27;+&#x27; button and more discernible buttons in general.
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jimeuxxover 10 years ago
I hope developers make good use of the changes to the title bar. It completely breaks the flow of the design of a lot of apps, and kills precious vertical space on my 13-inch MBP. A keyboard shortcut to toggle the menu bar would&#x27;ve been nice too. Neither of those would be big issues if it weren&#x27;t for the slow, eye-melting, completely superfluous fullscreen animations though.
deepforgover 10 years ago
I can accept almost all of the UI changes but these horrible blue folders.
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matt-attackover 10 years ago
I find the new Spotlight to be quite painful. Apple again, makes design choices not based on improving the quality but just because they feel they need to keep changing things.<p>They&#x27;ve done two things wrong with Spotlight. By moving it down from the top of the screen, that immediately reduces the number of results that can be seen. Then if that wasn&#x27;t enough they further limit the quantity of visible results by not allowing results to flow to the bottom of the screen. A double whammy if you will.<p>I can live with a slightly slower experience (yes, my indexing is done) but reducing the result count for absolutely no good reason is unacceptable.<p>And yes, I know I can scroll down.<p>Edit: Oh and while I&#x27;m complaining, please tell me which one is selected: <a href="http://i.imgur.com/Szj3Yag.png" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;Szj3Yag.png</a>
vacriover 10 years ago
I can&#x27;t wait for the &#x27;flat&#x27; fad to be over.
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blisterpeanutsover 10 years ago
Upgrading now: 5.16 gigs. Hah! This is going to take all night. Looks like everyone&#x27;s downloading it at the same time.<p>I was quite impressed by 10.10 from the Keynote a few weeks ago, and I&#x27;m looking forward to experiencing some of that. No iPhone so can&#x27;t enjoy that level of integration, but perhaps my iPad will be happier.<p>Meanwhile I have a Nexus 5 on order, and I&#x27;m debugging problems with my Linux PC&#x27;s new motherboard. Certainly Linux on a roll-your-own hardware platform is a different world from the slick, smooth Apple experience. I like both for what they can do but the Apple is becoming my go-to front end while the Linux machine is becoming more of a server and back-end tool.
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Shivetyaover 10 years ago
Just a personal note.<p>I really don&#x27;t need the grays&#x2F;white&#x2F;blacks of past operating systems. The initial setting for my quick bar just looks horrid, little icons on a dark gray background.<p>Everything looks so 16bit. I understand it bleeds through the background color, I would just prefer to have no background on the dock and have the icons float
hsshahover 10 years ago
Does anyone know if Mail app now supports &quot;cloud&quot; search for Gmail? i.e. you don&#x27;t need to download ALL your Gmail to local machine to be able to search. My SSD is quickly getting filled up and this is becoming one huge pain point.
kskover 10 years ago
Have they improved the Mac App Store updates yet? It shocks the mind to think that forcing users to re-download entire apps rather than just the stuff that&#x27;s changed is apparently a hard problem to solve for Apple.
dmanover 10 years ago
On my 2013 Macbook pro the wifi seems to be exceptionally slow after upgrading to Yosemite. Seeing speeds &lt; 600K after the upgrade. Usually see ~6 MBps.
k_bxover 10 years ago
I really hope it has dark theme as I imagined it to be, since current light-grey really distracts me when programming in dark theme editor&#x2F;terminal.
blackkettleover 10 years ago
Mavericks is not an obscure surfing destination.
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super_marioover 10 years ago
Absolutely ugly and tasteless design. Default theme is hideous black bold font on white background, large swaths of white everywhere. Dark theme is just inconsistent. Window titlebars are pale whitish, with black menu bar with white font on it.<p>Dock, is 2d until you roll over it, then icons pop out of it and it looks like it is 3d.<p>This is it, Apple is the new Microsoft. Frankly, and I can&#x27;t believe I would ever be saying something like this but Windows 7 now looks better and more consistent.
goericover 10 years ago
My camera on my 2013 Retina Macbook Pro doesn&#x27;t work post-upgrade, FYI.
mohamedattahriover 10 years ago
Just installed it. It freed 7GB on my Macbook Air&#x27;s flash drive. Nice!