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Inside San Francisco's housing crisis

90 pointsby dthalover 10 years ago

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delluminatusover 10 years ago
Loading extremely slowly for me. Google cache: <a href="https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:6m1opfxYLn0J:www.vox.com/a/homeless-san-francisco-tech-boom" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:6m1opf...</a><p>After reading the article, this quote really jumped out at me:<p><i>&quot;I was going along, being a good citizen,&quot; Todd, now 52 years old, says. &quot;I was a volunteer firefighter, I coached football and baseball, I was saving my money, doing everything you&#x27;re supposed to do, being a single father, raising my daughter by myself. Then the economy just went to hell and the company threw me to the wolves.&quot;</i><p>This is interesting because it sounds like what I&#x27;ve come to think of as the &quot;salaryman&quot; mentality: the idea that there is a contract between employee and company help each other, forever.<p>I don&#x27;t want to say it implies entitlement, exactly, but more like a weird view of reality. Why do people think being a &quot;good citizen&quot; who &quot;does everything you&#x27;re supposed to do&quot; means nothing will ever screw them? Or is this just rhetoric that people use to make themselves sound victimized?<p>I think this is a generational gap (in America, anyway). I don&#x27;t think you would ever hear those words coming from a millennial. Maybe we&#x27;ve just learned from the mistakes of people like this guy.
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DanBlakeover 10 years ago
There is a interesting anti-correlation between this and Prop G.<p>Prop G will be a retroactive tax applied to anyone who bought a multi unit building in SF in the last few years who would sell it the next few years. Tenants have no problem pushing this bill stating that buying a building does not entitle you to a lifelong contract and that &#x27;things can change&#x27; which will negatively effect you. So even though you bought a building a year ago with no hint it could be taxed at 25%, you are now expected to pay that tax if you sell.<p>Now, on the other hand we have tenants who are upset that they have to leave their homes they (wrongly) assumed they could rent in forever. Either this is from ellis, OMI or other eviction. I feel for these people to a extent- But I am not a believer in the whole &quot;right to stay in your birth city forever&quot; movement. I do not believe anyone has any more of a right to live in San Francisco than they do Malibu or Aspen. It is one of the most expensive metros in the US.<p>If you are a 90 year old grandmother who was counting on your landlord not evicting the whole building, you should have known that was a risky bet to begin with. If you want to stay in a place forever you should buy the home. Otherwise, you need to be prepared to move should situations change. You need to prepare for all &#x27;disasters&#x27; - That could be eviction, fire, death, floods, etc.. If you dont prepare, I will be sorry for you- But I dont think that entitles legal protection either. If you lose your house from a fire with no insurance, you are going to bare that burden alone.
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jobuover 10 years ago
<i>&quot;...tech growth in cities like Seattle has been the same to San Francisco relative to its size, but the rise in the cost of living is less than a third of that experienced in San Francisco. This is largely attributed to the city building more housing to meet demand.&quot;</i><p>This seems to be the root of the problem. So much of the blame gets put on tech companies or the rich getting richer, but no one blames the elected officials for not doing the right thing and allowing new housing to be built.
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scytheover 10 years ago
People are concerned about &quot;Manhattanization&quot;. That SF will become a &quot;big city&quot; and lose its &quot;cultural charm&quot;, if zoning rules are relaxed and taller buildings are built outside the main valley that runs from FiDi to the Misdion.<p>Well, you know what&#x27;s worse than Manhattan? Miami Beach. That&#x27;s where SF is headed, if this jingoism keeps up. You can&#x27;t fight a mass of rich people who want to live in your town: you can only contain them.<p>Build, baby, build.
krigiover 10 years ago
The housing problem is real. The suppliers&#x2F;property owners know there is a lack of supply, so now they&#x27;re just getting greedy.<p>Three hours ago this unit was $1600. It was updated to $1800. <a href="http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/apa/4726648527.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;sfbay.craigslist.org&#x2F;sfc&#x2F;apa&#x2F;4726648527.html</a><p>It doesn&#x27;t even have a kitchen. It&#x27;s just a room with a toilet - at nearly $10 per sq. ft.
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TheAceOfHeartsover 10 years ago
Why don&#x27;t these people just move to more affordable places?
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kibaover 10 years ago
So, we got political deadlock in a way that constrains new housing addition.<p>Why is the law not being changed?
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apiover 10 years ago
It&#x27;s simple:<p>Roaring economy, NIMBYism, affordable housing -- pick two.<p>SF has picked roaring economy and NIMBYism.
ktothemcover 10 years ago
I was the person who wrote that super-long take on the San Francisco housing crisis in spring on TechCrunch. <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2014/04/14/sf-housing/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.techcrunch.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;04&#x2F;14&#x2F;sf-housing&#x2F;</a><p>I&#x27;ll just say this. It&#x27;s four issues compounded.<p>1) Growth controls enacted in the 1960s and 1970s: Beginning in the late 1960s, the California Supreme Court started making a series of anti-development rulings: for example, one decision ruled that cities didn&#x27;t have to compensate property owners for down-zoning their property, which reduces its value. This, of course, reduced financial risks for city governments that wanted to downzone massive tracts of land in their territory.<p>At the same time, cities across the Bay began enacting growth controls. Petaluma was the first in 1972, with an ordinance that restricted the number of houses that could be built per year to 500. (Economic studies comparing Petaluma with adjacent cities showed that its property prices rose at a faster pace than cities w&#x2F;out growth control.)<p>Anti-growth measures began being widely adopted across the entire region. The behavior of California home prices started deviating from nationwide norms around 1975 or so. The problem became especially acute by the late 1970s, and so homeowners and tenants gave themselves a very sweet deal by effectively freezing their property taxes and rents via Prop. 13 and rent control. This insulated a majority of voters in cities like San Francisco from having to make tough decisions about in-fill development to match population growth. At this point, the mismatch is so out of whack and land is so valuable in San Francisco, that building a lot more housing probably wouldn&#x27;t make it affordable to, say, a teacher salary level. Construction costs are $500,000 per unit, so your base price has to be at least that.<p>2) A byproduct of tech-dependent economic development strategy happens to be a lot of income inequality. I haven&#x27;t seen a good solution to this. After manufacturing jobs dissipated from the U.S., a handful of cities like New York, Boston and San Francisco were successful at reviving themselves through a route of attracting highly-skilled, high-income workers. A consequence of this is a barbell-like jobs market where you have highly compensated workers in finance and tech on one side, and a whole cohort of service workers on the other. I&#x27;ve seen this wherever I travel. I went to Tel Aviv, which is arguably more dependent on tech than San Francisco with 10-11 percent of the workforce in the industry versus 6.7 percent here. Same issues with income inequality, inclusiveness and diversity.<p>3) Globalization of capital flows. Real estate used to be more of a local business, but now a lot of local firms have been swallowed up by REITS, which don&#x27;t have any connection to the local community. At the same time, the Chinese property market is collapsing, sending flows of homebuyers and their cash over here. These are people who may not intend to actually live in the Bay Area, yet they buy up homes without even seeing them. The city doesn&#x27;t know how to police this. How would you build a law or tax around regulating this behavior? New York may attempt a pied-a-terre tax, but no one really knows how to deal with this issue of vacant housing units held as investments. Technologically, it&#x27;s easy to track who is doing what where at all times. But legally, there are a lot of issues around privacy with policing this if foreign buyers are taking up 1&#x2F;3 of the new housing stock as investments.<p>Similarly in the venture world, while overall VC funds being raised is lower than what it was during the first dot-com bubble, according to the NVCA, there&#x27;s a lot of PE and foreign investment that I don&#x27;t think is calculated into the overall numbers.<p>4) Last is the lack of regional coordination. New York is 8.4 million people under one government. London is also 8.4 million people under one government. The Bay Area is 7 million people under 101 city governments and 10 bus and rail systems. There have been numerous attempts to consolidate power over the last century, but all have failed. The California state Constitution also deeply empowers its city governments compared to other states. So what happens is the rich cities don&#x27;t build any housing, because they like their property values and don&#x27;t like traffic congestion, or to crowd their schools. This drives prices up in the suburbs to a point where, on balance, urban environments look more attractive -- not just because of changing tastes, but also because they&#x27;re not <i>that</i> much more expensive than the South Bay. So young people end up crowding into these poorer disinvested neighborhoods like the Mission or Oakland, which then displaces minorities and the elderly far out into the exurbs or even Central California.
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Kaliumover 10 years ago
To those people who believe this is the fault of tech - I have a question.<p>What is the ethical way to move to San Francisco? Or anywhere in the Bay? What do you think is a good solution to this, beyond some variant on tech people owing undefined amounts of money to everyone else?
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scobarover 10 years ago
&quot;For many San Franciscans who have been displaced or are on the verge of losing their homes, there&#x27;s pain and a sense of powerlessness.&quot;<p>When I recently visited the Bay Area for the first time, I spoke with a worker who was helping with the catering of one of the events I attended. I sat with him while he was on break, and getting a bite to eat. When I asked him about himself, the conversation quickly arrived at this topic of gentrification. This sense of powerlessness is exactly how he felt, but there was also resentment toward new inhabitants making enough to afford the high cost of living.<p>Tech companies and workers are not the only (nor the main) cause of this issue, yet they&#x27;re likely receiving a higher fraction of the blame. Whether this resentment is justified or not, it doesn&#x27;t seem to be getting better with time. The cold but logical advice to &quot;just move somewhere more affordable.&quot; isn&#x27;t an acceptable solution to many of those who were or will be displaced.<p>I don&#x27;t want to move to the Bay Area and exacerbate the problem, but there are clearly some great benefits of basing a startup there. So it&#x27;s a difficult choice. Hopefully VR or another technology will make remote work a better solution than relocation in the future. Also, a better way to quickly and affordably retrain and enter a new profession must be made available to displaced workers so automation can replace low-wage service industry jobs faster.
_linden_over 10 years ago
If you are serious about the problems that result from NIMBY anti-growth sentiments, I strongly recommend that you join one of the following groups working to influence their city councils to build more housing. Just liking them on FB goes a long way to giving them more influence and credibility with their city councils and when you reshare their blogs or FB posts, if they gain just one more person willing to come to city hall with them, it&#x27;s a terrific win. People ARE trying to do something about this problem, including many from the tech sector.<p>Take the feelings you have from this article and channel into a concrete good that you can do right now, today, for minimal effort and zero cost. The sad truth is that the people whose voices get heard at city council today are generally those people wealthy enough in both dollars and time to spend hours every week at city hall. They&#x27;re mostly retired homeowners sitting on multimillion dollar properties. Renters, poor people, and homeless people receive almost no representation because they don&#x27;t have the luxury of coming to city hall meetings- they&#x27;re busy figuring out where they&#x27;re going to spend the night and how they&#x27;re going to feed their kids this week. These groups are doing just that on their behalf, so please support them.<p>If you&#x27;re in Palo Alto, check out www.paloaltoforward.com (also www.facebook.com&#x2F;paloaltoforward<p>If you&#x27;re in Mountain View, check out <a href="http://balancedmv.org/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;balancedmv.org&#x2F;</a> and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/mvhousingdiversity" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;mvhousingdiversity</a><p>If you&#x27;re in SF, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/BARentersFed" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;BARentersFed</a> and www.sfbarf.org<p>Menlo Park: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/MenloParkNoOnM" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;MenloParkNoOnM</a>
smsm42over 10 years ago
Something that jumped at me in the beginning, about the soup kitchen line:<p>Some carry iPods and smartphones, others come in suits.<p>Am I wrong to assume that somebody that can afford a smartphone and accompanying plans (which are not that cheap) and other gadgets like iPod, which probably means they own a computer and a broadband internet connection too - usually aren&#x27;t so poor that they would literally starve without a soup kitchen?
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stephenitisover 10 years ago
Huge props for the beautiful layout and format.<p>I&#x27;m excited that publishers&#x2F;authors are taking more time into the design of articles they roll out.
adwfover 10 years ago
Sounds like a great startup idea: End the San Francisco construction ban. Make a lot of money.<p>Everyone always says to look for pain points when creating your startup, this is a great example. Maybe it&#x27;s overlooked because it&#x27;s not internet&#x2F;software related ;)
dothethingover 10 years ago
Move.
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