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Zulu: Multi-platform Commercialized OpenJDK

48 pointsby balakkover 10 years ago

8 comments

blinkingledover 10 years ago
Wow, they seem to be going out of their way to avoid mentioning any benefits I might get from using Zulu over OpenJDK or Oracle JDK for that matter.<p>Knowing Azul through Cliff Click&#x27;s excellent blog posts I was expecting to see better GC, scalability work etc. but nope - this just seems to be rebranded JDK that is open source and has Enterprise support. Given Oracle they might have some success but that&#x27;s about it.
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gilteneover 10 years ago
Zulu is simple: It is a free and freely re-distributable binary distribution of OpenJDK for Linux, Windows, and Mac OS. Each binary is tested and certified (literally), which in the Java world is no small thing.<p>For MacOS and Windows, Zulu is the only binary distro of OpenJDK that I am aware of. For Linux (as of this writing), Zulu is the only publicly available binary distro of OpenJDK 8 that actually undergoes TCK testing and Java SE compatibility testing. [RedHat provides 7 and 6 binaries through the IcedTea project, but IcedTea has not yet shipped a Java 8 version].<p>So unless you want to build OpenJDK from source (and test top verify what you built is good), you&#x27;ll need to get a binary from somewhere. Zulu is that somewhere.<p>To demonstrate the simple value of a tested and certified binary build: The current default Java binary thing you get on docker&#x27;s official Java runtime image for Java 8 is 8u40 (<a href="https://registry.hub.docker.com/_/java/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;registry.hub.docker.com&#x2F;_&#x2F;java&#x2F;</a>). But 8u40 doesn&#x27;t actually exist. It is still in development in OpneJDK and won&#x27;t be released until March 2015. So this thing you pull off a repo is certainly not a tested or released version (likely a top of tree snapshot built from source and just pushed to an experimental repo).<p>For a current list of companies and organizations that are actually able to fully test OpenJDK 8 (or 7, or 6), see the TCK signatories list at: <a href="http://openjdk.java.net/groups/conformance/JckAccess/jck-access.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;openjdk.java.net&#x2F;groups&#x2F;conformance&#x2F;JckAccess&#x2F;jck-acc...</a><p>&lt;&lt; And yes, I work for Azul. &gt;&gt;
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wingmansover 10 years ago
I really can&#x27;t get over the level of marketing here. &quot;Report&quot; after &quot;report&quot; from a company that specializes in generating favorable copywriting out of thin air (<a href="https://451research.com/about" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;451research.com&#x2F;about</a>).<p>This is clearly not a product being targeted at developers, so I have no idea why &quot;Open Source&quot; or Docker is being pushed, other than being profitable buzzwords. In fact, on first impressions this looks like exactly what I would produce if I wanted to cheat clueless IT executives into buying a rebranded copy of OpenJDK.<p>If that&#x27;s the goal, maybe it will work. If not, they badly need to rethink the site.
gnufiedover 10 years ago
The obvious question is - does it provide anything additional on top of `OpenJDK` that I can already install via `apt-get install openjdk` ? I suppose those builds are 100% open source too.<p>I skimmed through 451&#x27;s analyst report if Azul is bringing any of their own improvements to Zulu but answer seems negative.
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snambiover 10 years ago
A lot of companies would love use OpenJDK instead of OracleJDK or any other proprietary JDKs. This is wise move from azul to provide support for openJDK.
exabrialover 10 years ago
The only reason I use the Oracle jdk in my enterprise vs. OpenJDK is performance. Oracle goes out of their way to make it a pain in the ass to install their jdk. If Oracle&#x27;s jdk were available via apt, this would be a no contest.<p>I&#x27;m curious if there&#x27;s a performance improvement with Zulu and if there are apt repos available.
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gojomoover 10 years ago
Isn&#x27;t OpenJDK already &quot;free, 100% Open Source&quot;?<p>What are the benefits of this &quot;commercialization&quot;?
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Alupisover 10 years ago
&gt; Linux (including Docker)<p>feed the &quot;buzz&quot;.
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