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Seed Rounds: How to Pick a Valuation

41 pointsby guiseppecalzoneover 10 years ago

3 comments

lpolovetsover 10 years ago
I think this is a great post. A few months ago, I wrote a post that I think is complimentary. I focused more on figuring out how much to raise, and working backwards from that number. <a href="http://codingvc.com/an-algorithm-for-seed-round-valuations" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;codingvc.com&#x2F;an-algorithm-for-seed-round-valuations</a>
sparkzillaover 10 years ago
Don&#x27;t most seed rounds use convertible notes? We use Y Combinator&#x27;s SAFE Docs (<a href="https://www.ycombinator.com/documents/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ycombinator.com&#x2F;documents&#x2F;</a>) so the issue of valuation can be delayed until the company has better metrics and can be value properly, while still giving upside to the note holder.
michaelochurchover 10 years ago
<i>20% MoM growth is the gold standard - the longer and more consistent you hit high MoM growth, the better. Even a product an investor doesn’t fully understand - for example, an app that self-destructs the photos it shares - starts to look really good with high MoM growth.</i><p>This is part of why I find the (light tech) startup world to be scammy and light on substance. 20% monthly growth is 792% annual growth. Would you really be inclined to put money in a stock fund that said that it was targeting <i>over 700 percent</i> annual growth? Or would you think there was something funny and unsustainable going on?<p>Quality has gone out the window and it&#x27;s all about blowing up bullshit metrics because that&#x27;s all these short-attention-span man-child types can deal with. Rather than thinking about <i>what the fuck we&#x27;re growing</i> it&#x27;s just growth, growth, growth. Fuck that one-dimensional mindless noise. What are you building? Not all &quot;growth&quot; is desirable.<p>Technology can <i>easily</i> produce 20 to 40 percent annual growth on a large number of economic problems, and even 10-20% once they achieve scale (unlike &quot;viral&quot; phenomena that, unpredictably, phase-change into negative growth). This can be done with a low level of risk. So why isn&#x27;t there any attention given to companies that, given a couple years of salaries for a few technically competent founders, could reliably and sustainably deliver 20-40% growth over the next couple of decades? Meaningful technological growth rarely comes out of get-big-or-die gambits. The moon landing wasn&#x27;t powered by a &quot;move fast and break things&quot; attitude. It comes from the humbler 30% annual growth, one year after another after another. Things take time.
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