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“2015 will be the year that Perl 6 officially launches for production use”

126 pointsby bmn_over 10 years ago

21 comments

Diederichover 10 years ago
I&#x27;ve been writing Perl every day, at work and at home, since 1993, ranging from mission critical operational components in the USAF, to automation that produced many 9&#x27;s of network availability in a &#x27;fortune 10&#x27; giant, to innovative operational management and process systems in a Silicon Valley (kind of) startup, to some pretty interesting stuff at my current company (SAP).<p>Perl 5 has certainly paid the bills. I have taught it to hot-shot C programmers and mainframe Cobol programmers alike in a community college.<p>Perl 5, by any modern standard, is, at best, a &#x27;quaint&#x27; language.<p>Perl 6 is literally everything I wanted Perl 5 to be. The incremental data typing is very exciting. The regular syntax is going to make it even easier to teach. And there are so many other well considered and awesome features.<p>And I just get giddy when I think of the amazing things that really smart people are going to make with Perl 6. It&#x27;s powerful from the top of its head to the bottom of its feet. And I think that it&#x27;s going to be a very fast language too.<p>Thank you, Perl. Thanks to the many people who have made it possible. May my 13+ years of high hopes not be in vain!
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baneover 10 years ago
If this is true, I&#x27;m incredibly excited. Perl is like a girl I used to love, broke up with, but never got over. I&#x27;m eager to start hacking on Perl 6 code, but don&#x27;t want to put the time in dealing with preproduction versions of the language.<p>Very exciting.
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zvrbaover 10 years ago
Compiler feature matrix: <a href="http://perl6.org/compilers/features" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;perl6.org&#x2F;compilers&#x2F;features</a> Note that there is also a JVM target. This is exciting!
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grondiluover 10 years ago
IIRC, this was a premature claim that has been written without any consulting of the actual Perl 6 community:<p><a href="http://irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2014-11-05#i_9617218" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;irclog.perlgeek.de&#x2F;perl6&#x2F;2014-11-05#i_9617218</a>
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rurbanover 10 years ago
Unfortunately I cannot recommend the parrot backend for production use yet. We recently found a serious GC bug which is reproducible under very tight memory constraints, such as my mips box with 256MB RAM or with very big perl6 modules.<p>I&#x27;m working on it for a week already and cannot promise to be finished until Jan 31, 2015.<p>But the other 2 backends, jvm and moar, are doing fine.
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huskyrover 10 years ago
So, will 2015 also finally be the year of Linux on the Desktop?
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barbudorojoover 10 years ago
I would like Perl to be the Perfect Extended Ruby Language. Sometime ago, there was a post from some Perl people about using Scala for the next Perl. Today Haskell, Clojure, Julia, Scala, Ruby and Lisp (batteries provided by quicklisp) are very big contenders.<p>Perl has cpan but I think the Perl community is really small, the great exodus happened long ago. Perl can make you feel as a real hacker, also J, but cryptic syntaxes is no longer buying you anything.<p>How can anyone seriously take any credibility to a calendar when Perl 6 has been delayed for ever.<p>Perl 6 is not the gift that Perl 5 was hoping to receive, Perl 6 is a modest advance not a revolution.<p>Today, now, we need much more. I wish Perl 6 the best, but I doesn&#x27;t believe it will gets much traction.<p>Edited: Grammar. Summary: Too little, too late, there is no longer confidence.
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esaymover 10 years ago
A yapc europe talk mentions even more features:<p><a href="http://act.yapc.eu/ye2014/talk/5704" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;act.yapc.eu&#x2F;ye2014&#x2F;talk&#x2F;5704</a>
Mithalduover 10 years ago
As a related preview, Larry&#x27;s keynote for the Austrian Perl Workshop last month:<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enlqVqit62Y" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=enlqVqit62Y</a><p>(He mostly talks about his travels.)
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tempodoxover 10 years ago
After a quick look, Perl 6 still looks like $#%&amp;@ to me. I don&#x27;t see why anyone would bother.<p>When Python 3 came around, I thought it was a good idea and that everyone would want to migrate as soon as possible. What we got instead is 3 more parallel installs of language versions. Beside Py-2.7 (which will apparently never go away), you will need Py-3.3, 3.4 AND 3.5 because every project wants a different one. Why would anyone want the same drama with Perl?
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tormehover 10 years ago
What&#x27;s supposed to be so great about Perl 6? I associate Perl with inscrutable cat-walked-on-the-keyboard programs and little else. Can someone in the know explain?
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klodolphover 10 years ago
I wonder what kind of community will grow up around Perl 6.
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nilsjuenemannover 10 years ago
I am still waiting for Hurd.
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BenGoldbergover 10 years ago
2015 will be the year that Perl 6 officially announces the date on which it will launch for production use.
davidy123over 10 years ago
To me Perl is the monk&#x27;s language. Not very friendly monks either. Solitary monks, except when they&#x27;re talking about the virtues of Perl with each other. Except within intentional cloisters, it&#x27;s not a good language to use for largescale or outward looking projects.
pjmlpover 10 years ago
Does it still matter? My last line of Perl at work was back in 2005.<p>Since then, our clients have been using Python, Groovy and Powershell code for the same set of tasks.
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baldfatover 10 years ago
2015 Half Life 3 can be announced
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rafekettover 10 years ago
hopefully all my cryptic perl5 1-liners will still work.
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diakritikalover 10 years ago
but, but, but... Netcraft has confirmed: Perl is dying!
mgarfiasover 10 years ago
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
lawnchair_larryover 10 years ago
Perl is easily the worst language that the world has ever known. Let&#x27;s just forget that mistake and move on.
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