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Getting Better at Getting Better

236 pointsby juanplusjuanover 10 years ago

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gumbyover 10 years ago
I am uninterested in professional sport but read this anyway and was really struck by this line:<p>&gt; &quot;...historically, practice was ... not about mastering skills. People figured that either you had those skills or you didn’t.&quot;<p>I suspect many people still feel this way. Those who keep trying to hone their skills are the fun ones to be with. Unfortunately they appear still to be in the minority.
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moabover 10 years ago
This distinction is already visible today in our field. Looking at my batch of CS grads, there&#x27;s clear divide between people who took on riskier positions or joined startups and people who continued to do what they were already good at. A few years after graduation, and this divide is already fairly stark - with people in the former being exponentially better than when they left school, and people in the latter not growing significantly.<p>The best people in CS are no different than the best workers&#x2F;athletes in any field. The challenge for the next few decades will be to see how we can improve the pedagogy at Universities to help people learn to learn better.
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mluceroover 10 years ago
This is a great article but I wish it would have also included advancement in area of steroids. We live in an era where drugs fuel a significant part of professional sports. Top tier athletes also have top tier drug regimens and their &quot;doctors&quot; have found ways to &#x27;hack&#x27; the testing. It&#x27;s an area that the media isn&#x27;t open about discussing but it is there with the millions of dollars at stake.<p>I know I&#x27;m leaning heavy on the sports side of the article but this isn&#x27;t all a result of refining the skills required for sport. They are also faster, stronger, and recover more quickly because of the drugs athletes take.
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amjaegerover 10 years ago
I didn&#x27;t expect this to be an article about education. But it seems to make a lot of sense. I have always felt that bad teachers recognize that there is a problem with their classroom management, however the solutions they come up with aren&#x27;t great. I also have seen that most bad teachers have common problems. Which would imply that with a pretty standard set of instructions a bad teacher could transform into something better with just a bit of work.
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corysamaover 10 years ago
Here&#x27;s an example of a school applying Demming&#x27;s&#x2F;Toyota&#x27;s&#x2F;Lean&#x27;s techniques to great success.<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGZHQnuZXj8" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=VGZHQnuZXj8</a>
quickpostover 10 years ago
Reminds me a lot of the notion of Growth Mindset vs Fixed Mindset that Carol Dweck has popularized.
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tokenadultover 10 years ago
This is a very good article. The reference to the newly published book <i>Faster, Higher, Stronger: How Sports Science Is Creating a New Generation of Superathletes--and What We Can Learn from Them</i> by Mark McClusky prompted me to request that book from my friendly public library. I like how the article looks at the absolute skill levels among professional competitors in chess and professional performers in orchestral music and shows that the skill level in those and many other domains has been steadily rising in my lifetime. There is still a lot of untapped potential in most individuals alive today that can be developed even at adult ages.<p>As the article reports, &quot;What we’re seeing is, in part, the mainstreaming of excellent habits. In the late nineteen-fifties, Raymond Berry, the great wide receiver for the Baltimore Colts, was famous for his attention to detail and his obsessive approach to the game: he took copious notes, he ate well, he studied film of his opponents, he simulated entire games by himself, and so on. But, as the journalist Mark Bowden observed, Berry was considered an oddball. The golfer Ben Hogan, who was said to have &#x27;invented practice,&#x27; stood out at a time when most pro golfers practiced occasionally, if at all. Today, practicing six to eight hours a day is just the price of admission on the P.G.A. Tour. Everyone works hard. Everyone is really good.&quot; This kind of cultural change can still go a lot further in a lot of fields on human performance. A culture of continual efforts at self-improvement has hardly even begun in many occupations.<p>The article&#x27;s conclusion about improving the performance of elementary and secondary school teachers in the United States is thoughtful, and also refers to good new books, <i>Building a Better Teacher</i> by Elizabeth Green and <i>The Teacher Wars</i> by Dana Goldstein. Studies of educational effectiveness in the United States consistently show that the variance in teacher quality in any one school swamps the variance in school quality between one school and another, so any child in any school district is at risk of getting an ineffective teacher. (Although schools in poor neighborhoods of the United States, on the whole, have the greatest difficulty in hiring and retaining good teachers.) Anything that can help teachers learn to teach better before or after they began working in the classroom will have massive social benefits. An economist who has studied teacher effectiveness for years shows that the best teachers are almost literally worth their weight in gold, while the worst teachers have negative added value for their pupils.[1] Bringing a culture of continual self-improvement in America&#x27;s schools is a project of crucial national importance.<p>[1] <a href="http://hanushek.stanford.edu/publications/valuing-teachers-how-much-good-teacher-worth" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hanushek.stanford.edu&#x2F;publications&#x2F;valuing-teachers-h...</a>
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thewarriorover 10 years ago
Is there any place where I can find a programming coach ?
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chrisduesingover 10 years ago
Does this imply we are headed towards a future where there isn&#x27;t a 10x difference between the best programmers and the worst? Where someone comes up with repeatable training that can help programmers advance throughout their career?
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losoover 10 years ago
I found it interesting that the story omitted the name of the person Kermit Washington punched and got suspended for. It was Rudy Tomjanovich. He went on to have a hall of fame coaching career. It was probably on purpose so that the main purpose of the story wasn&#x27;t derailed but I find it interesting nonetheless.
lipnitskover 10 years ago
Since his name came up in the article, it is worth reading more about the ideas that W. Edwards Deming[1] lectured on.<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;W._Edwards_Deming</a>
hookeyover 10 years ago
Too meta.
ameliusover 10 years ago
And how would this apply to hacking? Or entrepreneurship?
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