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Utah Considers Cutting Off Water to the NSA’s Monster Data Center

115 pointsby ruchir_21hjover 10 years ago

13 comments

scintill76over 10 years ago
Meh, according to the article, NSA already has a water deal until 2021, which this bill is not attempting to change. I remember hearing about trying to cut off their water months ago; was an opportunity missed, or was it already too late then? How might they cut off the water sooner than 2021?
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Osirisover 10 years ago
&gt; “What’s noteworthy is no one on the panel said: ‘Hey, wait a minute, we can’t do this,&#x27;” he says. “They had some specific concerns about the language of the bill, but there was no outright opposition.”<p>That&#x27;s pretty surprising given how incredibly conservative&#x2F;Republican the state of Utah is. I&#x27;d be surprised if the bill passed (and if it was it would surely be caught up in litigation), but kudos to someone in such a conservative area recognizing that personal liberty is more important than security.
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prbuckleyover 10 years ago
If every state stood up and passed bills like this the NSA couldnt have giant data centers in this country.
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jackhammerover 10 years ago
&gt; The bill, H.B. 161, directs municipalities like Bluffdale to “refuse support to any federal agency which collects electronic data within this state.”<p>What about the IRS? Doesn&#x27;t actually every government agency collect data?
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GordonSover 10 years ago
It&#x27;s a nice thought, but it&#x27;ll never happen. It&#x27;ll be a &#x27;matter of national security&#x27;, supporters will be branded &#x27;terrorists&#x27; or other such nonsense.
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hellbannerover 10 years ago
&quot;refuse to support any federal agency&quot;. Interesting -- so local law enforcement can still collect data, which I think is what people want. A lot of the strangeness of technology we experience isn&#x27;t that something can be done, it&#x27;s that lots of things can be done at massive scale.
jlgaddisover 10 years ago
I don&#x27;t think this bill stands a snowball&#x27;s chance in hell of passing with language like:<p><i>&gt;“refuse support to any federal agency which collects electronic data within this state.”</i><p>Wikipedia has a huge list of U.S. federal agencies [0]. Can someone provide an example of a federal agency that <i>doesn&#x27;t</i> collect data in Utah?<p>Skimming through the list, I would expect that nearly all of them <i>do</i> collect data in Utah.<p>(Admittedly, I didn&#x27;t read the bill so it&#x27;s quite possible that &quot;support&quot; and &quot;data&quot; are very specifically defined.)<p>[0]: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_agencies_in_the_United_States" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_federal_agencies_in_th...</a>
madaxe_againover 10 years ago
<i>IN 2021</i>.<p>So even if they pass this next year, the NSA have six years to sue them and do whatever they like - i.e. ruin the lives of anyone who opposes them, and any legislators who voted in favour of this, and then maybe implant their own people, who&#x27;ll vote that everyone from Utah is now an NSA-serf and must provide blood for cooling.<p>More effective would be a cunningly managed massive algal bloom upstream from their intakes, which would neatly clog all the things, and hopefully cause a large fire, localised entirely in their information nexus of doom.
yc1010over 10 years ago
If I were a UTAH politician pushing for this I would be very careful now,<p>You might just wake up one morning with a squad of armed policemen storming your house who will &quot;find&quot; child porn on your computer.
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BonoboBonerover 10 years ago
Does the guy in charge want his most private search history leaked? Because that is how you get your most private search history leaked.
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teekertover 10 years ago
Hey, you guys didn&#x27;t even want the Freedom act, this will not be passed. We all know how things go over there, across the pond, we saw House of Cards ;)
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ozhover 10 years ago
I don&#x27;t even see this as a potential slightest chance.
jokoonover 10 years ago
why would they need that much water anyways ?
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