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Reconceptualizing major depressive disorder as an infectious disease

30 pointsby winstonsmithover 10 years ago

6 comments

pasbesoinover 10 years ago
What has bothered me about medical practice -- at least and especially mainstream medical practice in the U.S. -- is that there is so much professionally declared &quot;It can&#x27;t be. That doesn&#x27;t exist. Etc.&quot; until the evidence becomes overwhelming to the contrary.<p>That is, that absence of evidence is taken for and prescriptively treated as absolute evidence of absence.<p>&quot;Cancer is not contagious.&quot; Well, as I seem to recall from recent comments of an expert in the field, we are now looking at upwards of 30% of types of cancer being tied to an infectious agent.<p>Not yet having read the OP link, I already recall that researchers are now, per popular&#x2F;mainstream reporting, looking at, among other things, the human biome (symbiotic organisms such as microflora) as likely playing a significant role in health including mental health.<p>First, it was &quot;all in your head&quot;. Then, it was &quot;your genetics&quot; -- and new classes of pills.<p>Now, finally, some acknowledgement that if your environment sucks, lo and behold, this may physically, and not just &quot;psychically&quot;, affect your well being.<p>In summary, treat the patient, not the prescribed domain of a medical profession whose institutions have more than a bit of sometimes blindered self-interest.
jrapdx3over 10 years ago
Certainly a reasonable hypothesis in light of the growing body of evidence that inflammatory factors are implicated in MDD and other psychiatric disorders.<p>Furthermore, clinical observation supports the idea. It&#x27;s quite common during the course of a cold or similar infection that patients will complain of having increased depressive symptoms.<p>However inflammation is a very generic phenomenon which implies a greatly diverse range of influences operating to bring about emergence of MDD. For example, depression frequently accompanies post-surgical recovery which evokes inflammatory responses even in the absence of infection.<p>While an infectious form of MDD is plausible, it wouldn&#x27;t be the only important source of depressive conditions. In this sense, MDD is like a &quot;final common pathway&quot;, the idea that clinically visible syndromes comes about through numerous paths. The key concept is that the mechanisms leading to the final path segment can be dissimilar and even non-overlapping.<p>It means there&#x27;s truly no distinct, singular &quot;cause&quot; of the condition, or rather there are numerous disease processes that happen to present similarly.
mabboover 10 years ago
When we look back at the history of many illnesses, it&#x27;s easy to wonder how the previous generations could have been so dumb to not have realized the root causes. The story of stomach ulcers is especially wonderful, because it&#x27;s so recent [1] (stomach ulcers were obviously caused by stress, and poor diet, etc).<p>One wonders how many obvious root causes to common illnesses are sitting right in front of us. A good friend of mine has dealt with depression issues for many years. I&#x27;d love to learn that a quick anti-parasite treatment would relieve her of the pain she&#x27;s dealt with.<p>[1]: <a href="http://discovermagazine.com/2010/mar/07-dr-drank-broth-gave-ulcer-solved-medical-mystery" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;discovermagazine.com&#x2F;2010&#x2F;mar&#x2F;07-dr-drank-broth-gave-...</a>
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ada1981over 10 years ago
After healing myself from serious suicidal depression &#x2F; mania without long term psychiatric drugs, what I can say is this..<p>Depression should be examined as a strategy one uses to avoid feeling past a certain threshold. Certain &quot;emotional states&quot; get coded in as unsafe in our implicit memory system and instead of experiencing the emotion we push it into our cortext where we can wrap a story around it..<p>Writing Gratitude letters is as effective as Prozac in many people; this was in fact one of my primary tools. The other was a commitment to feeling all my emotions without trying to escape them and to face the fear and anxiety directly. This felt like dying -- in fact this is what has been called &quot;an ego death&quot; or &quot;spirtual rebirth&quot;. In Modern speak, I&#x27;d say this is the rough equivlent of using your cortext to bootstrap an emotional experience in the lymbic system that recodes implicit memory in the amygdala. It&#x27;s damn hard to do, and for good reason -- you don&#x27;t want to give write access to your source code to any old program.. This is why psyhedelics can work well -- they can rewrite those implicit emotional memories.<p>I&#x27;ve been having great success with this model with my coaching clients and am developing a more robust model and writings on this.. Of course, happy to provide my usual free session for benevolent hackers who may be struggling with &quot;depression&quot;.
kazinatorover 10 years ago
I absolutely agree with this. Once I was hit by a bug that completely brought me down <i>mentally</i> for several days, before the physical symptoms hit (ending in emergency on IV). In the depressed state, I went on a job interview, and totally bombed.<p>Another person who caught the same thing had the same symptoms: dysphoria, low energy, no appetite --- and then the physical stuff: nausea, vomiting, dehydration, ...<p>It is entirely plausible that some viruses cause a protracted form of the former symptoms.
aw3c2over 10 years ago
The domain looks so super trashy and spammy, is this an actual trustworthy journal?
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